Breeding siblings

[OhhWatALoser]

What you are after is miss-information it would seem. You obviously want every one to tell you that it's ok. To each there own.

no, I want true information, like I said? you saying "Genetics are the same no matter what." is not true information by any means. Alot of what you say seems to be debatable or opinion.

I don't understand? Are you just wanting to argue? You even said it your self? Who said any thing about less than a couple of generations?

sib x sib means 1 generation, so i believe it was the OP said something about less than a couple generations.

ok so what about all of the bad clutches and train wrecks that come from those breedings? They do happen. Most of the time no one says anything about them. Oh wait, I guess it was incubation temps right?..... yea about that. Most if not all of the big named breeders have done it enough and most will tell you that it is way better to out cross. Why is that?

im wondering if I should send you the bhb video again? im not arguing line breeding will most likly end up in undesirable effects, but this whole thread is simply about sib x sib.

Anyways, like I have said. People are going to do what they want to do and most do turn a deaf ear so to say. Denying the fact that bad things happen due to inbreeding is ridiculous. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

ive already touched on this

All wobbles, kinking, duck-billing, one eye, no eye, cleft lip, organs on the outside, mangled bodies, and clutch after clutch of non thriving babies....etc, etc are all due to temps or just bad genes and has nothing to do with anything else.

yes all wobbles, im assuming you mean the spider wobble, the most outcrossed morph you can get? you bring up carmels again...lol. duck billing I don't know much about so I won't comment. The rest, sure again after a few generations of line breeding, but also seen some of the above from from pretty unrelated pairs (different morphs from different breeders) it does happen.

It's funny though that when you out cross the supers (cinnies, Black Pastels, Lessers, etc) most of the deformities start to go away.

proof?