Super Black Pastel ???

[Rock star Reptile]

So the question has came up in my house. I am wondering if anyone can help us?

We all know what is a super black/cinny pastel is..

Now I know if you have a super black pastel (black pastel x black pastel) and breed to a normal you get all black pastels.
Then I know if you get a supper cinny (cinny x cinny) and breed to a normal you get all cinny.

Now for the 2 part question....

Black pastel x cinny = what do you call the "super" form of this?
and
If you breed to a normal you get all ?

Thank you in advance..

[KingPythons]

Black pastel and cinny are very much alike, not pattern wise but combo wise.
Black pastel x cinny = 8ball which is a super cinny black pastel. IMO the black pastel to cinny make the darkest super compared to a cinny x cinny or black pastel x black pastel. Its like a mojave and lesser, they make the same super.
hope that helps

[OhhWatALoser]

8 ball bred to a normal = 50% black pastel 50% cinny

[snakesRkewl]

I thought an 8-ball to a normal would be...?

25% normal
25% cinny
25% black pastel
25% cinny/black pastel combo

Isn't it a combo snake and not a super form?

[Rock star Reptile]

[QUOTE=snakesRkewl;1450984]I thought an 8-ball to a normal would be...?

25% normal
25% cinny
25% black pastel
25% cinny/black pastel combo

Isn't it a combo snake and not a super form?[/QUOTE/]

So this is what I was curious..
Because now you can have a "super" AKA BEL.. and it be 2 diff morphs huh? See so does it work that way for this as well?

[dreese88]

I thought an 8-ball to a normal would be...?

25% normal
25% cinny
25% black pastel
25% cinny/black pastel combo

Isn't it a combo snake and not a super form?

[QUOTE=Rock star Reptile;1450995]

I thought an 8-ball to a normal would be...?

25% normal
25% cinny
25% black pastel
25% cinny/black pastel combo

Isn't it a combo snake and not a super form?[/QUOTE/]

So this is what I was curious..
Because now you can have a "super" AKA BEL.. and it be 2 diff morphs huh? See so does it work that way for this as well?

While it may not technically be a super, all of the offspring from an 8 ball breeding would be either BP or Cinny. It's like in the combo bel's where all offspring are one of the 2 morphs used to make it.

[dr del]

Hi,

I thought an 8-ball to a normal would be...?

25% normal
25% cinny
25% black pastel
25% cinny/black pastel combo

Isn't it a combo snake and not a super form?

No it is definately a super as both genes are on the same location ( called alleles iirc ) so there are simply no normal genes at that location to be passed on in a breeding.

The only genes that can be passed to the offspring from that location are either cinammon or black pastel.


dr del

[snakesRkewl]

Thank you for clearing that up

[Rock star Reptile]

OK so does anyone have a pic of this 8 ball? Google is not doing it for me..

[KingPythons]

OK so does anyone have a pic of this 8 ball? Google is not doing it for me..

super cinny or super black pastel? Its the same looking ball python just suppose to be black'er lol... Im pretty sure someone will shime in and show you one from their collection though.