Yeah i don't know who this Steven Kingston guy is, but i do know that Daniel did say these things to Tim at Tinley because Daniel Himself said he did on Fauna. Now if i got screwed over on a snake, i would want to say stuff like that too, especially when snakes are your lively hood.

That being said, i've purchased from both parties involved and i have to say they are both very nice guys and stand by their animals. Tim deals with a ton of snakes, so mistakes are bound to happen, it just was up to him to make it right. So now Tim has hurt his own reputation by screwing over another breeder.

Now when i bought my first snakes from Daniel almost a year ago, he actually guaranteed me that if my Het. Pieds don't produce a Het in future breedings, he will either set me up with a visual Pied or other snakes of equal value. I have seen the parents and i trust Daniel, so i don't need to worry about anything like that.

In the end it comes down to being able to bite the bullet and take the hit when you make a mistake, fess us and make it right, no matter how much time has past. Let's all be honest a female adult proven Het is worth a whole lot more than a proven male Het adult, unless it's the first of it's kind. This is the biggest thing about the whole transaction and what i don't get about Tim. He should have done the right thing and settled this a while ago, but i guess that was never going to happen...