disappointed in the internet community, ending this rumor right now

[stevenkeogh]

What is your original post really all about?
Thinking you're the first person to ask NERD about homozygous spiders is ridiculous.
Of course people have asked and the ones that were able to get responses, did.

When I was speaking with Kevin years ago, his answer was simply:

They never really pursued the homozygous spider. They were too busy making all the cool combos they could with the spider gene to ever really care.

I have to say that the comment about them claiming to have a possibly homo spider is funny. Sounds like they suspected you as being gullible and are having a little fun with you.

2 clutches...all spiders... Yep, sounds good to me. Haha. 2 whole clutches.

-Steven

[JLC]

Here's an often referred to thread where the reference to the spider x spider combo clearly states there is no definitive answers yet. It does not claim "fact" one way or another.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics

...., but it was a rumor that should of ended a long time ago.

If Kevin only has two clutches that have thrown all spiders...this says he hasn't been trying (or looking) for a super for all that long...so why should we have had an answer years ago?

Personally, I've always been a tad surprised that more people haven't tried and proven it out before this...but it is what it is...for whatever reason, even IF someone has a known super-spider, they have not showered the 'Net with proof of it. So why should we have all known this so long ago?

[Raptor]

There's always the possibility that there is a homozygous spider: it just looks like a regular spider.

[OhhWatALoser]

What is your original post really all about?
Thinking you're the first person to ask NERD about homozygous spiders is ridiculous.

Of course people have asked and the ones that were able to get responses, did.

When I was speaking with Kevin years ago, his answer was simply:

They never really pursued the homozygous spider. They were too busy making all the cool combos they could with the spider gene to ever really care.

it is ridiculous, thats my point, i said there no way I was the first person, so why have I never seen someone say something about it in the countless homozygous threads, I kept hearing kevin said he proved there wasn't a homozygous, which isn't true, he said he proved it to be dominate, then obviously with your input he didn't try to prove a homozygous. this is news to me, why didn't you say something in one of the threads?

I have to say that the comment about them claiming to have a possibly homo spider is funny. Sounds like they suspected you as being gullible and are having a little fun with you.

2 clutches...all spiders... Yep, sounds good to me. Haha. 2 whole clutches.

-Steven

read post #19 and that wouldn't make sense, if you were standing there and got told they had a possible homozygous, would you laugh at them and say "ha good one, im not stupid" when they are the most likly people to have one, who can tell them "no your wrong"? i mean if the 2 clutches had 6 eggs each, thats a 1/4069 chance of hitting all spiders... sure we'd like to see more, but statistics is statistics.

[wolfy-hound]

Check for a thread where I posted how many clutches/hatchlings I had out of my poss homo spider. It was more than two clutches, never threw a normal but I still stopped short of saying it was a homo spider, intending on waiting for more clutches to make such a claim. Sadly, my male spider died this past year, so we'll never know.

I'm not quite coherant right now to look it up, but the info is there. I wouldn't consider it to be definitive until at least ten clutches, and I had a LOT of non-viable eggs/hatchlings out of him, but all formed fetuses were spiders.

Loads of folks have talked to NERD about the spider/homo spider/possiblities.

[OhhWatALoser]

Check for a thread where I posted how many clutches/hatchlings I had out of my poss homo spider. It was more than two clutches, never threw a normal but I still stopped short of saying it was a homo spider, intending on waiting for more clutches to make such a claim. Sadly, my male spider died this past year, so we'll never know.

I'm not quite coherant right now to look it up, but the info is there. I wouldn't consider it to be definitive until at least ten clutches, and I had a LOT of non-viable eggs/hatchlings out of him, but all formed fetuses were spiders.

Loads of folks have talked to NERD about the spider/homo spider/possiblities.

i looked, you first clutch was 4 eggs, all i could find, id be intrested in how big your 2nd clutch was if you ever look it up.

[El Gran Pito]

Ok, what I don´t understand (or believe) is why hasn´t anyone ever bred a spider x spider.
It´s as simple as that so I don´t know why this hasn´t been done.

regards

[rabernet]

Ok, what I don´t understand (or believe) is why hasn´t anyone ever bred a spider x spider.
It´s as simple as that so I don´t know why this hasn´t been done.

regards

What makes you think that they haven't?

[El Gran Pito]

What makes you think that they haven't?

The rumor is still out there.

[OhhWatALoser]

Ok, what I don´t understand (or believe) is why hasn´t anyone ever bred a spider x spider.
It´s as simple as that so I don´t know why this hasn´t been done.

regards

It has been done, if the homozygous exists, it will look like a hetrozygous spider. so the only way to prove it homozygous, is through multiple breedings and it sounds like this hasn't been explored too much.