Snake Feces

[sarahlovesmiike]

And here is a link that might help you out as far as funds go.


http://www.carecredit.com/vetmed/

[Gadsden]

Actually dogs prolapse quite often when there are female dogs in heat around. It happens to my dogs, but generally goes away. If it doesn't go away, they need surgery before it dries out, like your snake needed.


AND for the record, I'm not a "hippie". I just care for animals and the environment. I will eat a chicken for dinner and cut down a tree to heat my house. And talking down to us, the ones who gave you the proper and ONLY legitimate advice, isn't going to get you anywhere. OF COURSE we were rude to you, instead of taking care of your snake who will now have permanent damage because his "owner" refused to give him the necessary care because he was "asking around for an inexpensive vet". You should have been calling around and seeing if someone could work something out with you, or if they would accept a post dated check. Not just waiting for the magical tool called FaceBook to offer you a solution.

Really? Who's been talking down to who here? I'm on the defensive when all I wanted was help.

Your advice isn't the only legitimate advice. It's a snake. Prolapsed hemipene or prolapsed rectums happen in nature, just as in captivity. Do you think that a snake in nature would stand any better chance? No. I am keeping it clean, moist and disinfected. My dear, poor snake would have been long dead by now in the wild. So are you going to get on my case for not searching out every snake in the wild with a prolapsed hemipene and trying to save it too? There's more to life, my friend.

[JLC]

dogs don't randomly crap their penises or colons out!

Regardless of whether they do or not....they DO eat things they cannot digest....they get hit by cars....they ingest poisonous substances...they get cancer...they get hip displaysia...they get ear infections...they get sores and injuries that we have no idea where they came from....they get parvo....they get kennel cough....and I could go on and on. Just because the likelihood of your dog having the same injury as your snake is low doesn't mean it will never need vet care that you can't afford.

Believe it or not, I TOTALLY understand the fiscal dilemma you are facing. The problem is not whether or not you can afford a vet...but rather....your method of trying to justify or excuse your unwillingness to see what people are trying to tell you.

I hope you really did find an "old friend" who is now a vet who happens to have experience dealing with snakes (somewhat rare in the vet world)...and who also happens to live close enough to you to offer free services. And I hope he's still there for you when your dog needs help, too.

[AkHerps]

The difference is, you are in a sense, playing, "God". In the wild, there are no medications, no vets, if a snake gets sick, yes, it can suffer and die. In captivity, the owner plays the role of, in a sense, a "God". You can choose to take your animals to the vet, and try to help them get better, or you can choose to take away their life if given the choice, or you can choose to let them suffer yourself.

Snakes have a nervous system just like anything else, they can easily feel pain.

Let's look at it this way. If your colon was hanging out, or your..."hemipene" was erm...prolapsed...what would you want done if you knew there was no hope of living because someone couldn't afford your surgery? Would you want to suffer, or get put out of your misery.

Your problem is, you are allowing yourself to see this snake as a mere object, while it is in fact something that can feel pain just like anything else.

It's the same problem we face with dog fighting and animal cruelty, when people say, "Well it's just a dog, or, it's just an animal".

[Gadsden]

How do you think it is not painful to have your rectum hanging out of your body and for the flesh to start dying????

ALL animals are programmed to not show pain as a defense mechanism. Most animals who eventually start showing pain or symptoms of being sick, are often so sick or so damaged that it is too late for them.

Put this animal to sleep if you can't find someone to help. Most vet places have special credit cards only for vet charges, but if you don't want to do that, put this one to sleep.

Yes snakes are cheap and easy to take care of, but they are still an animal, and just like people, freak accidents and events happen that can cost a lot of money, or cost the life of the animal.

Animals are not inclined to not show pain as a defense mechanism. That makes no sense. they have basic neurological reactions, not "act like a tough guy" complexes.

I would imagine that having my colon shat out would be painful, however, so would being probed for my gender, and we do that to snakes all the time without causing pain to them.

Cost of reptilian life is less than or equal to the cost in dollars. They're not people; my child doesn't have a prolapsed rectum.

And for everyone's information, I have a vet friend that is willing to see what she can do to help. If she cannot, my snake will likely become a feeder snake for another snake. I know that breaks many of your bleeding hearts, and it's not easy to bear myself. But it's nature. I'd rather my snake get turned into energy for another living thing --the way nature intended-- than to be pointlessly euthanized and discarded.

[Gadsden]

Please PLEASE stop relating a SNAKE to a HUMAN! There's a VAST difference in the value of life. Yes my colon would be painful to be hanging out of my rear. AND I WOULD REACT ADVERSELY IF TOUCHED!

I AM FULLY AWARE that a snake can feel pain!!!! I am not stupid. THAT BEING SAID IF HE FELT PAIN HE WOULD BE REACTING TO IT!

[AkHerps]

It's not a tough guy act, it's a defense mechanism because they can't show weakness or they risk getting eaten. Almost all animals do this, it's programmed into them.

Probing is not painful at all, same as getting a temperature rectally.

All life is important, no matter what kind of life it is.

[Igby]

Supposedly sugar water soaks will help for a while until you are able to take your snake to the vet....at this point, though, i am not sure that it would be of any use. Maybe...try it while you get the whole vet situation under control?

[Gadsden]

Regardless of whether they do or not....they DO eat things they cannot digest....they get hit by cars....they ingest poisonous substances...they get cancer...they get hip displaysia...they get ear infections...they get sores and injuries that we have no idea where they came from....they get parvo....they get kennel cough....and I could go on and on. Just because the likelihood of your dog having the same injury as your snake is low doesn't mean it will never need vet care that you can't afford.

Believe it or not, I TOTALLY understand the fiscal dilemma you are facing. The problem is not whether or not you can afford a vet...but rather....your method of trying to justify or excuse your unwillingness to see what people are trying to tell you.

I hope you really did find an "old friend" who is now a vet who happens to have experience dealing with snakes (somewhat rare in the vet world)...and who also happens to live close enough to you to offer free services. And I hope he's still there for you when your dog needs help, too.

The problem isn't my justifying or excusing my unwillingness to see what people are trying to tell me. The problem is that you're all justifying my unwillingness to do something immediately by relating a snake to a person. IT'S A SNAKE! NOT A CHILD!

[Gadsden]

Supposedly sugar water soaks will help for a while until you are able to take your snake to the vet....at this point, though, i am not sure that it would be of any use. Maybe...try it while you get the whole vet situation under control?

What ratio of sugar to water should I solute? What temperature and for how long should I soak him? What effect does sugar water have on a prolapsed rectum?