Gotcha. Thanks so much for all your help. I think we finally have a starting point to work with here. I think we'll probably go with mojave's as they tend to be less expensive then the butters and lesser. Honostly I like the greyish silvery heads of the lucy's. Gives them a little character. I'll let you know what we get in the next couple of weeks. We have our Reptile Convention coming up in a week and Im hoping to pick up a couple things there![]()