this spider or this cinnamon?

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I would skip on both , the cinny isnt clean enough pattern wise, and the spider does not have enough reduction in pattern and has too many dots

i agree with this. although i would normally say it's upto him if he likes the pattern, but the pattern is too busy for my liking . i like single dorsal stripe with stripes going down the side. some people like the striped spiders, some people like dots. it seems like the spider just has a weird busy pattern. i like the head pattern though

the cinny is cool looking but you could find a better one