Quote Originally Posted by sungmina View Post
In my limited experience, neither of these morphs are 'golden' and on the Graziani Reptils website it states:

"One of the males that I picked had an odd cinnamon color and he was not as bright as the rest. His dorsal pattern was normal... After a closer look at him we realized that he contained no yellow pigment. At that time we were calling him a Cinnamon ball python."

This implies that the morph was indeed named after the base color and not the dorsal color which was described as 'normal' which I assume ranges from dark brown to black; nor was the original animal 'golden' in any way.

I don't understand how people can believe that one is UGLY and one is GORGEOUS. They are honestly VERY similar in appearance, and such opinions are based on just that, opinion.
i specifically said "i find" so yes.. it is my opinion... i think both are nice looking, but i guess you require people to start with "IMO".. lol i take everything most people say as opinion unless a person specifically asks "whats better - this or that?" or "what is a HQ this?"..

also, i said a HQ black pastel should focus on the dark BLACK and the gold... (IMO...)...
NERD's black pastel page: "While extremely similar to the Cinnamon trait, Black Pastels are a separate lineage with the same manner of co-dominant inheritance. Black Pastels are high contrast animals, with distinct black background coloration & gold or rust colored patterning."

as far as the cinnys go, yeah i guess i mispoke . they ARE more reddish.