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    Re: Micro-chipping BP

    Quote Originally Posted by asixtwo View Post
    Was it an out and out scam, or a "percentage" het that never proved out?
    All-out scam. If I recall correctly, one person sunk over $10K on a group of albino pied double-hets. This was happening in 2003-2004 and to my knowledge, nothing ever proved out. If you're interested you can search threads about Carolina Reptile Exchange on faunaclassifieds BOI. Lots of people lost lots of money. Will a photo ID stand up in court? Will a microchip ID stand up in court? I think in order to find out, you have to get the seller into court...
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    Angry Re: Micro-chipping BP

    Quote Originally Posted by PiedPeddler View Post
    All-out scam. If I recall correctly, one person sunk over $10K on a group of albino pied double-hets. This was happening in 2003-2004 and to my knowledge, nothing ever proved out. If you're interested you can search threads about Carolina Reptile Exchange on faunaclassifieds BOI. Lots of people lost lots of money. Will a photo ID stand up in court? Will a microchip ID stand up in court? I think in order to find out, you have to get the seller into court...
    - Paul
    That's why I hate working with other peoples hets!
    I had a buddy breed what was advertised as a 66% het to vis (albinos) 2 years in a row and produce nothing but normal (looking) offspring.

    The guy he sold her too (as a big normal) for $100 produced visible albino's the following year.

    That's why I hate working with other peoples hets!

    I know that there are dirtbags out there who are unscrupulous, but there are also people (present company excluded) who simply don't understand recessive genetics, that's why I'm chipping my snakes.

    If I sell a chipped animal as a 100% het, I will gladly take an adult animal back for a full refund plus 1/2 food cost as long as the animal is healthy.

    A photo ID is like a fingerprint, with one small exception...
    Court systems universally sanction and recognize fingerprint experts.
    Photo ID is considered "subjective" evidence, and therefore open to the interpretation of the court.

    Since I have a fairly low level of confidence that anyone would get a judge or jury with any experience in snake identification, I'd prefer going into court with a documented RFID serial number.

    Here's another problem with photo ID.
    Just recently a good friend sold someone a high end breeder.
    3 days after the sale, the buyer showed up with a freezer burned snake that wasn't even close to the weight of the snake sold, and demanded a refund for his dead snake!
    The buyer has been involved in some shady deals in the past, and is now suing my buddy in small claims court.
    Try making a photo ID on a frozen animal that may have been dead for even 24 hours before it was frozen.
    Just a few snakes and geckos at the moment.



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