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    Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Do you guys know if their are any typical visual markers that a het hypo/ghost BP will carry? The main reason I ask is that I have a male pastel het hypo/ghost that I plan on breeding to a female normal this season and I wanted to know if there was a fairly accurate way to pick out the possible hets? any advice is appreciated.

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    0.1 Pinstripe.............................1.0 DH Lavender Snow
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    0.1 Pastel PH Ghost..................1.0 Pastel Het Ghost
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    0.1 Het TSK Axanthic................1.3 Mojave
    0.1 Het Albino..........................1.0 Albino PH Pied
    1.1 Het Pied.............................1.0 Dinker
    1.2 Normal...............................1.0 Pastel Lesser

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    if there was any markers, it wouldn't be a recessive trait, it would be co-dom. Hypo is recessive, therefore there are no markers.
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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    if there was any markers, it wouldn't be a recessive trait, it would be co-dom. Hypo is recessive, therefore there are no markers.
    Certain recessive morphs have visual markers to go along with them. Although they are not a 100% guaranteed way to tell, they do exist. Het. Pieds are one of the best examples...sure not all het pieds have the markers, but many do.
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    0.1 Pinstripe.............................1.0 DH Lavender Snow
    0.2 PH Lavender Albino.............0.1 Bumblebee
    0.1 Pastel PH Ghost..................1.0 Pastel Het Ghost
    0.2 PH Ghost (Twins)................1.0 Cinnamon
    0.1 Het TSK Axanthic................1.3 Mojave
    0.1 Het Albino..........................1.0 Albino PH Pied
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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    Certain recessive morphs have visual markers to go along with them. Although they are not a 100% guaranteed way to tell, they do exist. Het. Pieds are one of the best examples...sure not all het pieds have the markers, but many do.
    atleast with the het pieds I weas looking at, I would be hard pressed to say even some have the marker, seems like very few do. but I posted an another thread asking people to tell me if their het pieds have markers

    but besides that then, no other recessive morphs have markers.

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    I do know that there are breeders who over the years have seen slight differences in "Normal" het babies for different morph, Clown, Pied, and even hypo come to mind..now each breeder looks for something different and all will tell you it can be unreliable but I can tell you 3 people I know personally that have pick out poss hets and proven them not once but several times..
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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    atleast with the het pieds I weas looking at, I would be hard pressed to say even some have the marker, seems like very few do. but I posted an another thread asking people to tell me if their het pieds have markers

    but besides that then, no other recessive morphs have markers.
    Both of my het pieds have very strong markers.
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    0.1 Pinstripe.............................1.0 DH Lavender Snow
    0.2 PH Lavender Albino.............0.1 Bumblebee
    0.1 Pastel PH Ghost..................1.0 Pastel Het Ghost
    0.2 PH Ghost (Twins)................1.0 Cinnamon
    0.1 Het TSK Axanthic................1.3 Mojave
    0.1 Het Albino..........................1.0 Albino PH Pied
    1.1 Het Pied.............................1.0 Dinker
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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    I do know that there are breeders who over the years have seen slight differences in "Normal" het babies for different morph, Clown, Pied, and even hypo come to mind..now each breeder looks for something different and all will tell you it can be unreliable but I can tell you 3 people I know personally that have pick out poss hets and proven them not once but several times..

    The breeder I get most of my snakes from mentioned that his hypo's do have a marker, but I forget what it was (I'll have to give him a call). At the last show he pointed out all of his hets for sale...they were axanthics, lavenders, ghosts, and piebalds and they were labled as possible het. Out of those he went though every one and pointed out whether or not they actually carried the genes (he even did this with several double hets). Granted this was an educated guess, but he said he has proven them out based on these markings on a regular basis.

    I'm sure this is also different with every line of an animal, but I am a strong believer in markers...as long as the animal in question is from a known line of a given morph (not just a random animal in a pet store). I also understand that many hets have no markers...as I have seen plenty of het. pieds with no visual markers.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    0.1 Pinstripe.............................1.0 DH Lavender Snow
    0.2 PH Lavender Albino.............0.1 Bumblebee
    0.1 Pastel PH Ghost..................1.0 Pastel Het Ghost
    0.2 PH Ghost (Twins)................1.0 Cinnamon
    0.1 Het TSK Axanthic................1.3 Mojave
    0.1 Het Albino..........................1.0 Albino PH Pied
    1.1 Het Pied.............................1.0 Dinker
    1.2 Normal...............................1.0 Pastel Lesser

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Light spot on the head is one sign of a het hypo.

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Many het hypos look a out half way between normal and hypo. Some even shed clear like hypos. But like the pied marker seen in most het pieds it isn't 100% but both can be very helpful when picking which babies to keep back and which to sell as normals.

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    Do you guys know if their are any typical visual markers that a het hypo/ghost BP will carry? The main reason I ask is that I have a male pastel het hypo/ghost that I plan on breeding to a female normal this season and I wanted to know if there was a fairly accurate way to pick out the possible hets? any advice is appreciated.

    Thanks,
    -Jordan
    a lot of het hypos have a certain look to them, like a really really turned down version of a hypo. lots of head blushing and an overall orange tint ect... ect...

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