Well... I might give up the normals.. LOL The Female is from Gratziani Line Pastel x Imported Female and her coloration is extraordinary... we seem to think there may be something going on with her.. I would post a picture here but I can't attatch pictures at this time.. I would be happy to E-mail them to anyone though cathys99471@aol.com... perhaps someone can give me a clue as to whether there is something that might be worth pairing her with besides the Black Pastel