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    Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    Ok so Im new here, but not new to Balls, although I am new to breeding them and all the morphs out there. I have had JR (my male) for 18 years now and he is a normal. I have had Sammy (my girl) for a year now and she is a very light honey color (not sure what she is, I'll post some pics. Anyway today is day 60 of their clutch of 9 and I got too impatient to wait any longer, so I cut. I incubated at 89 degrees constant the whole way through, except for the times I opened the lids to peak inside, obviously. I read everywhere that they hatch at this temp from 52-60 days and since today is 60, I couldnt wait any longer. So since Im so new to this, I had a few questions. The cutting went fine, don't worry no one got hurt. But I was wondering how much goup is normal? Are there still supposed to be lots of red live viens still in there? Ill post pics of this too. Just an advice or a good job would make me feel better lol I cut them at noon today and no one has poked their heads out yet. I know they are all alive cause they move when you touch them. I just dont know how long its supposed to take before they decide they want to say hi. Any advice?

    This is Sammy's head:


    This is the rest of her laying over JR:


    Sammy:


    This is JR with our two younger ones snuggling on top of him:


    See the color difference in them? Any idea what she might be or if she is just a light normal?

    Ok here are the eggs:


    Here is my one moldy egg that has made it full term, YAY:


    Here are the viens I was talking about:

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    Re: Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    I get excited too reading these hatching posts!

    You did a great cutting job. Very nice. I only have one clutch under my belt but I'm pretty sure those red veins are normal.

    It shouldn't be long now!

    Can't help you with the morph question. I only know pastel and spiders. lol. I don't think it's a pastel because pastels have lighter eyes (greenish looking).
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    Look just like mine did, when I cut them the other day... one is fully out now, and the rest are on their way. So at least from my limited experience, yours look perfectly normal!
    Last edited by Lolo76; 08-20-2010 at 04:24 AM.
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    Re: Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    Oh, and to answer your question about the mom... she looks similar to one of my girls, whom I refer to as a "light normal." So I'm not sure she's anything but a normal, but definitely a neat looking one! Should be interesting to see how the babies look when they're out.
    Lolo's Collection...
    Ball Pythons: 0.4 Normals, 1.0 Pastel, 1.1 Mojaves, 1.0 Black Pastel, 2.0 Spiders, 0.1 Lesser, 1.0 Orange Ghost, 0.1 Honeybee
    0.1 Spotted Python, 1.1 Stimson's Pythons, 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
    3.4 Corn Snakes, 1.1 Western Hognose Snakes, 1.2 cats, and 1.0 dog (47lb mutt)

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    Re: Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    1. The eggs look alright. The average is 52-60 days, they take as long as they want though.
    2. The normal is just a light normal.
    3. Do you house them all together?

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    Re: Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    Mom and eggs look normal!

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    Re: Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    Quote Originally Posted by A.VinczeBPs View Post
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    3. Do you house them all together?
    Yes these 4 are all housed together. Have been for quite a while now. Never had any problems with it and they all get along great and love to snuggle

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    From what Ive been told, "snuggling" actually means they are having to compete for the same resource (heat, hide...). Cute babies though.

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    The eggs look great! You did a really good job with your cutting. The red veins are normal and even after the babies emerge there will be some "clear goop" (albumin) in the eggs. Don't worry about the babies coming out. They will when they are ready. Most the time when I cut they will pop their heads out the next day or the day after. If you look in and you see incubation medium on the top of the eggs but no sign of the babies poking their heads out. Rest assured they have come at least partially out of the egg and gone back in. They will also "hide" from you in their eggs a lot of the time when you open the incubator door or take the lid off of the eggs box.

    Don't you know you are a big scary predator!

    In all seriousness, you did a great job on your first clutch and I can't wait to see the babies once they finally emerge!

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    Re: Day 60 today! I decided to cut...

    Quote Originally Posted by aalomon View Post
    From what Ive been told, "snuggling" actually means they are having to compete for the same resource (heat, hide...). Cute babies though.
    Thank you the two small ones were rescues, not my actual babies, but I love em just the same.

    As far as the competing thing goes, I don't really think that's it. Purely because they all have their own hide and several heat spots. They come out and roam together and when they are done, snuggle together. My tank mostly stays an ambient 88 degrees, so I know they aren't cold. And if I pull them all out, they still try to stay together. I think its love

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