Ball pythons illegal in some states?? What??

[SERPENT_MASTERS]

This is a list of all genera, species and subspecies of the family Pythonidae, otherwise referred to as pythonids or pythons.

Antaresia
Antaresia childreni, Children's python
Antaresia maculosa, Spotted python
Antaresia perthensis, Pygmy python
Antaresia stimsoni, Stimson's python
Apodora, Papuan python
Apodora papuana, Papuan python

Aspidites
Aspidites melanocephalus, Black-headed python
Aspidites ramsayi, Woma
Bothrochilus, Bismark ringed python
Bothrochilus boa, Bismark ringed python
Leiopython, D'Albert's water python
Leiopython albertisii, D'Albert's water python
Leiopython bennettorum, Bennett's white-lipped python
Leiopython biakensis, Biak white-lipped python
Leiopython fredparkeri, Parker's white-lipped python
Leiopython hoserae, southern white-lipped python
Leiopython huonensis, Huon white-lipped python

Liasis
Liasis fuscus, Brown water python
Liasis mackloti, Macklot's python
Liasis mackloti mackloti, Macklot's python
Liasis mackloti savuensis, Savu python
Liasis olivaceus, Olive python
Liasis olivaceus barroni, Pilbara olive python
Liasis olivaceus olivaceus, Olive python

Morelia
Morelia amethistina, Amethystine python
Morelia clastolepis, Moluccan Python
Morelia boeleni, Boelen's python
Morelia bredli, Bredl's python
Morelia carinata, Rough-scaled python
Morelia kinghorni, Kinghorn's python
Morelia nauta, Tanimbar python
Morelia oenpelliensis, Oenpelli python
Morelia spilota, Carpet pythons
Morelia spilota cheynei, Jungle carpet python
Morelia spilota imbricata, Southwestern carpet python
Morelia spilota mcdowelli, Coastal carpet python
Morelia spilota metcalfei, Inland carpet python
Morelia spilota spilota, Diamond python
Morelia spilota variegata, Northwestern carpet python
Morelia tracyae, Halmahera pytho
Morelia viridis, Green tree python

Python, Pythons
Python anchietae, Angolan python
Python breitensteini, Borneo short-tailed python
Python brongersmai, Red blood python
Python curtus, Sumatran short-tailed python
Python molurus, Indian python
Python molurus bivittatus, Burmese python
Python molurus molurus, Indian python
Python regius, Royal python
Python reticulatus, Reticulated python
Python sebae, African rock python
Python sebae natalensis, Natal rock python
Python sebae sebae, African rock python
Python timoriensis, Timor python

[Theartisticgemini]

This is a list of all genera, species and subspecies of the family Pythonidae, otherwise referred to as pythonids or pythons.

Antaresia
Antaresia childreni, Children's python
Antaresia maculosa, Spotted python
Antaresia perthensis, Pygmy python
Antaresia stimsoni, Stimson's python
Apodora, Papuan python
Apodora papuana, Papuan python

Aspidites
Aspidites melanocephalus, Black-headed python
Aspidites ramsayi, Woma
Bothrochilus, Bismark ringed python
Bothrochilus boa, Bismark ringed python
Leiopython, D'Albert's water python
Leiopython albertisii, D'Albert's water python
Leiopython bennettorum, Bennett's white-lipped python
Leiopython biakensis, Biak white-lipped python
Leiopython fredparkeri, Parker's white-lipped python
Leiopython hoserae, southern white-lipped python
Leiopython huonensis, Huon white-lipped python

Liasis
Liasis fuscus, Brown water python
Liasis mackloti, Macklot's python
Liasis mackloti mackloti, Macklot's python
Liasis mackloti savuensis, Savu python
Liasis olivaceus, Olive python
Liasis olivaceus barroni, Pilbara olive python
Liasis olivaceus olivaceus, Olive python

Morelia
Morelia amethistina, Amethystine python
Morelia clastolepis, Moluccan Python
Morelia boeleni, Boelen's python
Morelia bredli, Bredl's python
Morelia carinata, Rough-scaled python
Morelia kinghorni, Kinghorn's python
Morelia nauta, Tanimbar python
Morelia oenpelliensis, Oenpelli python
Morelia spilota, Carpet pythons
Morelia spilota cheynei, Jungle carpet python
Morelia spilota imbricata, Southwestern carpet python
Morelia spilota mcdowelli, Coastal carpet python
Morelia spilota metcalfei, Inland carpet python
Morelia spilota spilota, Diamond python
Morelia spilota variegata, Northwestern carpet python
Morelia tracyae, Halmahera pytho
Morelia viridis, Green tree python

Python, Pythons
Python anchietae, Angolan python
Python breitensteini, Borneo short-tailed python
Python brongersmai, Red blood python
Python curtus, Sumatran short-tailed python
Python molurus, Indian python
Python molurus bivittatus, Burmese python
Python molurus molurus, Indian python
Python regius, Royal python
Python reticulatus, Reticulated python
Python sebae, African rock python
Python sebae natalensis, Natal rock python
Python sebae sebae, African rock python
Python timoriensis, Timor python

Your in NY therefore are you keeping them illigaly>?

I am looking into a license from the department of wildlife and fishing that costs i belive 100$ a year and allows you to keep these guys without a problem.

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they lied to you theartisticgemini

new york city health code § 161.01. Wild animals prohibited

(10) reptiles (reptilia). All helodermatidae (gila monster and mexican beaded lizard); all front-fanged venomous snakes, even if devenomized, including, but not limited to, all viperidae (viper, pit viper), all elapidae (cobra, mamba, krait, coral snake), all atractaspididae (african burrowing asp), all hydrophiidae (sea snake), all laticaudidae (sea krait); all venomous, mid-or rear-fanged, duvernoy-glanded members of the family colubridae, even if devenomized; any member, or hybrid offspring of the family boidae, including, but not limited to, the common or green anaconda and yellow anaconda; any member of the family pythonidae, including but not limited to the african rock python, indian or burmese python, amethystine or scrub python; any member of the family varanidae, including the white throated monitor, bosc's or african savannah monitor, komodo monitor or dragon, nile monitor, crocodile monitor, water monitor, bornean earless monitor; any member of the family iguanidae, including the green or common iguana; any member of the family teiidae, including, but not limited to the golden, common, or black and white tegu; all members of the family chelydridae, including snapping turtle and alligator snapping turtle; and all members of the order crocodylia, including, but not limited to alligator, caiman and crocodile.

your in ny therefore are you keeping them illigaly>?

I am looking into a license from the department of wildlife and fishing that costs i belive 100$ a year and allows you to keep these guys without a problem.

yes i do live in new york. Do i live in new york city? I plead the 5th. On the grounds i may be kicked off the best ball python forum on the net. Keep me posted on the permit since i never heard of permit given to residents in nyc. If so $100 for each snake? I have friends in the city who own ball pythons.

[cordell]

only state i can think of that has a full ban is hawaii and thats due to the fact that they pride themselves on haveing no snakes in the entire state.

Hawaii has a snake, it is The Brahminy Blind Snake (Ramphotyphlops braminus). It is very small, one would think it was a worm if they seen it.

[seeya205]

Nope, I was in Southern Ontario. It wasn't a province-wide thing but, as was explained to me, literally a city ordinance in the city I lived in.

For some reason they also didn't allow ferrets.

Brantford has allowed balls for sale for a least 20 years because my half brother lives there and always had balls for at least 20 years! I called Ontario Animal Control and she said ball pythons have never been banned in Ontario. Only law is that venomous snakes are banned!

[Kyle@theHeathertoft]

Brantford has allowed balls for sale for a least 20 years because my half brother lives there and always had balls for at least 20 years! I called Ontario Animal Control and she said ball pythons have never been banned in Ontario. Only law is that venomous snakes are banned!

Hmm...seems I was lied to by someone with some authority. That...REALLY pisses me off. I may be making a few calls to my ex to see if we can't track that person down (I keep crappy records, my ex on the other hand...) and raise some hell.

[$Hakeem$]

Well,here at Puerto Rico only Ball Pythons and Garter snakes are legal...All other snakes are illegal...

[Erratum]

I just found out that 'Pythons' are illegal where I'm moving, and of course this makes me terribly sad. I have been waiting for a long time to be able to move out and have one! The bylaw says nothing other than 'Pythons', which leads me to believe that all species are included, but I still plan on emailing whomever one emails about local laws to ask.

What makes it worse is that I'm moving so close to where the Canadian Reptile Breeders Expo is.

I live in the GTA and there is a bylaw against them in my particular town. I couldn't care less; it's just nonsense based on assumption, stereotype and ignorance. My ownership isn't flaunted around in public and they're not coming door to door to check for pythons. Not much of a problem.

edit: As per forum rules, I do not condone or suggest this. I am merely stating my situation.