rofl: yes I agree they have and they have been flourishing, but why take the chance when I am the one controlling their environment? I agree that I was worried and maybe jumped the gun but with all the eggs so swollen it could be that I had them too moist, or some other error on my part and if I had waited maybe one would have been ready and not been able to get out. When I went through the pipping threads a large part said their eggs dimpled as piping time came near and not only where mine not dimpling but they where so full that when I put a small hole in them the fluid literally gushed out (that is why I think I had them too moist) and I had to poke fairly hard with sharp scissors to get that first hole.
I have been worried about my eggs a lot this season as I had them in perilite and a few eggs where almost all covered as I couldn't separate them before I put them in (actually I was afraid as they where stuck hard together and I was worried I would rupture one if I tried to get them apart) so the eggs that had the perlite touching them where a transparent color but where it was exposed to the air the eggs where really tough. Try as I might I couldn't seem to get a happy balance.
I am not trying to be difficult (it feels like I am being a brat so if you took it this way it is not how I intended it to sound)
I have one more clutch (hopefully) to go and I am going to try and do the substrateless incubation to see if I do any better (and lower the temps a wee bit).