People seem to think that if you breed caramels you come out with kinked babies. which is untrue.my caramel male has a slight tail kink and has produced for three years in a row with the same girl and every baby has been perfect with no kinks or deformities. from what I and several other people have found is tom definetely out cross and use a slightly drier incubating medium.my male is a bell line and the female het is a nerd line. two totally different but compatible blood lines. i would definetely not raise up the babies and breed back to the parents. but just my two cents