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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by izoid
Not all rats carry salmonella but they can carry it. It seems as though we like to make blanket statements that are not based in fact. I for one would not want to purchase an animal that was contaminated with salmonella, if you do then go right ahead but it is not a good idea.
The question that needs to be answered is how did this salmonella outbreak cross contaminate the entire product line. This very fact would indicate that proper hygiene practices may not have been followed.
Nobody knows that the FDA is using this as a ploy to shut down, or regulate, all rodent suppliers. This is akin to some silly conspiracy theory like Roswell. The facts are the facts and we do not know all of them. All we know is the entire supply is being recalled for salmonella. People in 17 states MAY have gotten sick because of it.
What part of the facts did you not understand. The 17 cases are not all directly linked to Mice Direct, but TO FROZEN FEEDERS! Let me state it another way...there have been 17 cases linked to frozen feeders, NOT 17 cases linked to Mice Direct, but frozen feeders from several different producers. Mice Direct is the one taking the crap for the whole frozen rodent industry....and BTW why is anybody believing everything the media says....aren't they the ones that tell the public your BP will kill the family pet or EVEN A CHILD!!
We have been aware of the FDA's doings for roughly 2 weeks. They are targeting frozen feeders in general, not the company Mice Direct. So yes I do know what the FDA is up to, we have been in contact with some of the key players. They are debating regulating the entire frozen feeder market just as they do dog food. So yes this will affect the ENTIRE frozen feeder industry.
Remember, we are not talking about live animals with salmonella, but raw meat. They tested RAW MEAT....not the living breeders. And everybody and their mama knows you can get salmonella from handling raw meat...even that for human consumption.
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
Mice direct has great rodents. IMO
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
How would one go about doing irradiate. I sell many mice here locally live and frozen. And do plan on selling Frozen ASF as well and would like to take the extra step if it helps.
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons
How would one go about doing irradiate. I sell many mice here locally live and frozen. And do plan on selling Frozen ASF as well and would like to take the extra step if it helps.
I think all you have to do is drive within 100 miles of Vegas and it's all taken care of.
Radiation wise, that is.
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by wilomn
I think all you have to do is drive within 100 miles of Vegas and it's all taken care of.
Radiation wise, that is.
HA too bad thats out of the question with the long drive.
Theres gotta be a safe way of doing this without exposing ourselves to it
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons
How would one go about doing irradiate. I sell many mice here locally live and frozen. And do plan on selling Frozen ASF as well and would like to take the extra step if it helps.
I applaud you sir....this is the appropriate response, someone who truly cares to do the right thing. No blame game, no conspiracy theories, just plain old do the right thing.
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
Holy Crap! I used to get my rats from mice direct but after having issues with snakes getting sick I changed up my husbandry and a few months ago switched to a different rodent breeder completely.
I always suspected somethning since the vet reports came back with a abundance of salmonella as the cause for the illness, but I wasn't convinced it was the food I was feeding them... My snakes also didn't as readily eat the mice direct rats as they do with the new breeder I get them from...
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons
How would one go about doing irradiate. I sell many mice here locally live and frozen. And do plan on selling Frozen ASF as well and would like to take the extra step if it helps.
There are two facilities in the south east. One in South Florida, and one about 3 hours from Atlanta. I do not know about facilities in the North. You basically have to take your product to the facility to get the process done. It is time consuming and costly, but Mice Direct is doing it at the direction of the FDA
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by FloridaHogs
There are two facilities in the south east. One in South Florida, and one about 3 hours from Atlanta. I do not know about facilities in the North. You basically have to take your product to the facility to get the process done. It is time consuming and costly, but Mice Direct is doing it at the direction of the FDA
That will be way out of the question i guess. I dont breed on large scale to afford all that for the rodents. But then again i wash my hands in between touching mice and rats or feeding snakes.
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Re: Mice Direct FDA Recall
 Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons
That will be way out of the question i guess. I dont breed on large scale to afford all that for the rodents. But then again i wash my hands in between touching mice and rats or feeding snakes.
Just use a good quality food, clean your cages on a regular basis and wash your hands after handling. I think that is a reasonable approach for a small scale home breeder like yourself. If you were selling thousands of rodents all over the country I would image you would want to take some extra measures.
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