Can I bring my snake in the park, mall, etc etc where dogs are allowed

[WingedWolfPsion]

It won't be good for the snake--ball pythons don't exactly enjoy being fully exposed out in the open. It would be the worst day of his life.

Phobic individuals will freak out, and probably write to their senators.

A dog may decide to try to have your snake for lunch. After all, people bring their dogs to areas where dogs are allowed when they feel their dog can handle being around other dogs, and around people. They don't necessarily expect their dog not to chase squirrels, and it would never occur to them to test how their dog handles being confronted with a snake.

Bad idea.

[sho220]

Phobic individuals will freak out, and probably write to their senators.

That made me laugh. Write to their senators? Because someone had a snake at a park? Really???

I know sometimes people do some flaky things, but come on...that's tinfoil hat territory right there...

[king216]

That made me laugh. Write to their senators? Because someone had a snake at a park? Really???

I know sometimes people do some flaky things, but come on...that's tinfoil hat territory right there...

lmao that is hilarious, but its funny because i can actually picure some jerk doing that, some little old lady might do that lol, i highly doubt it but its a funny thought

[anatess]

That made me laugh. Write to their senators? Because someone had a snake at a park? Really???

I know sometimes people do some flaky things, but come on...that's tinfoil hat territory right there...

Might not be likely but not tinfoil hat territory either.

The python ban in Florida (where I live) didn't become law because people thought snakes are cool in parks. We had a good debate going with lots of support from the reptile community but the ban went up anyway - because some people were vocal about banning them and a majority of people didn't care enough to make their opinions known while a very small minority tried to stop it. I will guarantee you that Bill Nelson will run for his Federal Senate seat without even a smidgen of this reptile ban endangering his campaign.

We show off our snakes for educational purposes but we do it through people coming to visit us in our homes or having a show-and-tell at my kids' classroom (pre-arranged with the teacher, etc.) or show-and-tell at the Boy Scout Patrol meeting (to get their reptile badges) or as an exotic exhibit at the church's Halloween Party (Mike Cavanaugh brought a very nice display - like the ones at the reptile expo - with all his awesome snakes, like 40 of them - to my church!).

The thing is - people go there expecting to see snakes so it's good experience all around.

If you notice, snake-phobic people who go to zoos don't mind seeing snakes there. That's because they expect to see them there. Therefore, it is a positive educational experience because their minds are open.

This is not the same as an education from some dude with a python at the park. The curious ones get a good education - they will be the ones who wouldn't have a problem with it in the first place. The phobic ones will just get more phobic and.... vote yes on legislation when it hits the senate floor.

Responsible education. That's the key.

[king216]

Might not be likely but not tinfoil hat territory either.

The python ban in Florida (where I live) didn't become law because people thought snakes are cool in parks. We had a good debate going with lots of support from the reptile community but the ban went up anyway - because some people were vocal about banning them and a majority of people didn't care enough to make their opinions known while a very small minority tried to stop it. I will guarantee you that Bill Nelson will run for his Federal Senate seat without even a smidgen of this reptile ban endangering his campaign.

We show off our snakes for educational purposes but we do it through people coming to visit us in our homes or having a show-and-tell at my kids' classroom (pre-arranged with the teacher, etc.) or show-and-tell at the Boy Scout Patrol meeting (to get their reptile badges) or as an exotic exhibit at the church's Halloween Party (Mike Cavanaugh brought a very nice display - like the ones at the reptile expo - with all his awesome snakes, like 40 of them - to my church!).

The thing is - people go there expecting to see snakes so it's good experience all around.

If you notice, snake-phobic people who go to zoos don't mind seeing snakes there. That's because they expect to see them there. Therefore, it is a positive educational experience because their minds are open.

This is not the same as an education from some dude with a python at the park. The curious ones get a good education - they will be the ones who wouldn't have a problem with it in the first place. The phobic ones will just get more phobic and.... vote yes on legislation when it hits the senate floor.

Responsible education. That's the key.

wow, ur church has a halloween party???? i thought halloween was satonic, well me personally i still celebrate halloween but i know alot of christians that are totally against it, i didnt think a church would celebrate it

[sho220]

wow, ur church has a halloween party???? i thought halloween was satonic, well me personally i still celebrate halloween but i know alot of christians that are totally against it, i didnt think a church would celebrate it

That's spelled Satanic...not satonic. He hates when people get that wrong...

[king216]

That's spelled Satanic...not satonic. He hates when people get that wrong...

LOL COOL, I LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY

[anatess]

wow, ur church has a halloween party???? i thought halloween was satonic, well me personally i still celebrate halloween but i know alot of christians that are totally against it, i didnt think a church would celebrate it

The church doesn't "celebrate" Halloween per se. The church has "activities" to encourage fellowshipping (so you can get to know the people who go to the church). Also a way to get to know people in the community (you don't have to be affiliated with the church to go - it's open to anybody).

It's on the same vein as the July 4th party and the Memorial day party and the Thanksgiving party and the End of School party, etc. etc. Lots of parties at my church.

But, as an aside - Halloween is not satanic. November 1 is All Saints Day - celebrating the lives of all saints. November 2 is All Soul's Day - celebrating the lives of all who have died. It just somehow morphed into this graveyard horror stuff.

Halloween parties at my church are nothing more than a costume ball (no masks and only G-rated costumes - like Disney Princesses and such) with carnival games and free food. Perfect place to have a Reptile Exhibit with all the kids loving that stuff and parents being more indulgent than usual.

[rj1204]

The point is, why take an animal anywhere where it will most likely be stressed out. That alone should be enough of a reason not to take it to the park.

On top of that, if it bites or strikes just one time, the negative attention it will bring will be huge. I would say that 80-90% of people are afraid of snakes and will NOT enjoy seeing one there. We BP.net people are the minority. I don't think that BP's or even any other snakes need to be brought out in public.......all it takes is that one person who will freak out, write a senator, call the police, or whatever to give more ammo for the ban.

It would be best for the snake, community, and public to leave your BP at home where he belongs.

[king216]

the church doesn't "celebrate" halloween per se. The church has "activities" to encourage fellowshipping (so you can get to know the people who go to the church). Also a way to get to know people in the community (you don't have to be affiliated with the church to go - it's open to anybody).

It's on the same vein as the july 4th party and the memorial day party and the thanksgiving party and the end of school party, etc. Etc. Lots of parties at my church.

but, as an aside - halloween is not satanic. November 1 is all saints day - celebrating the lives of all saints. November 2 is all soul's day - celebrating the lives of all who have died. It just somehow morphed into this graveyard horror stuff.

Halloween parties at my church are nothing more than a costume ball (no masks and only g-rated costumes - like disney princesses and such) with carnival games and free food. Perfect place to have a reptile exhibit with all the kids loving that stuff and parents being more indulgent than usual.

thats cool, when i use to go to church most of the christians at my church were so against it, but it sounds like alot of fun