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    Re: Maternally Incubating Again =)

    All babies out and accounted for.. Dewshine gave me 3.1 normals and Ailynn gave me 1.4 normals. I'm disappointed that there were no pastels among them, but it was only a slim chance anyway. I'm just happy with healthy babies.


    Kyriel, my het pied, finally laid her clutch sometime earlier today. There are four eggs beneath her so now starts another countdown to hatching and I'm HOPING that at least one of them is holding a pied baby.




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    Congrats on the healthy babies and my fingers are crossed for your pied project!
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    0.1 Pinstripe.............................1.0 DH Lavender Snow
    0.2 PH Lavender Albino.............0.1 Bumblebee
    0.1 Pastel PH Ghost..................1.0 Pastel Het Ghost
    0.2 PH Ghost (Twins)................1.0 Cinnamon
    0.1 Het TSK Axanthic................1.3 Mojave
    0.1 Het Albino..........................1.0 Albino PH Pied
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    Re: Maternally Incubating Again =)

    that is AWESOME!!!! way to go!!!! so happy to hear that!
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    Re: Maternally Incubating Again =)

    I'm super jealous. That pic with the babies' heads poking out between mom's coils are awesome!

    Yeah, my maternal incubation is not as successful, but I think it is as successful as it could be for 60 days. I continued to feed every 10 days and she didn't miss a meal and continued maternal incubation all the way to 60 days when she just all of a sudden stopped. I moved the eggs to the emergency incubator and they're still not out of the egg at 68 days.

    I had my temps at 86 and humidity at 80 while maternally incubating. But, my temp probe was underneath the egg box - in between the egg box and the sterilite container the whole thing was housed in. The egg box is sitting directly on top of the heated section of the container without any bedding between the box and the floor of the container. But, inside the box is about an inch of bedding which mama snake built a "crater" in while laying on her eggs. Because of mama being in the egg box, I didn't risk putting the temp probe wire inside the box and potentially strangling her. So, it could possibly be that the temperature inside the egg box was well under 86 which is probably the cause of the eggs hatching very late. First timer, what can I say.

    If I ever attempt breeding again (which I don't think I will in the near future if I have anything to say about it - hubby decided this breeding thing) I will for sure go with maternal incubation again but I'll be sure to get a temp gun and a helix-type thermostat instead of the el-cheapo reptitherm that I have.

    I have to say, Quiet Tempest is my favorite breeder gal. She inspired me with maternal incubation even if I had a cooler incubator as well. I think it was a more educational experience for my kids and it fit perfectly with our holistic lifestyle.

    QT, congratulations on another year of successful breeding. I love looking at your pics! I'm praying that you get a pied baby this time. 52 days waiting... man, that is a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    I'm super jealous. That pic with the babies' heads poking out between mom's coils are awesome!

    Yeah, my maternal incubation is not as successful, but I think it is as successful as it could be for 60 days. I continued to feed every 10 days and she didn't miss a meal and continued maternal incubation all the way to 60 days when she just all of a sudden stopped. I moved the eggs to the emergency incubator and they're still not out of the egg at 68 days.

    I had my temps at 86 and humidity at 80 while maternally incubating. But, my temp probe was underneath the egg box - in between the egg box and the sterilite container the whole thing was housed in. The egg box is sitting directly on top of the heated section of the container without any bedding between the box and the floor of the container. But, inside the box is about an inch of bedding which mama snake built a "crater" in while laying on her eggs. Because of mama being in the egg box, I didn't risk putting the temp probe wire inside the box and potentially strangling her. So, it could possibly be that the temperature inside the egg box was well under 86 which is probably the cause of the eggs hatching very late. First timer, what can I say.

    If I ever attempt breeding again (which I don't think I will in the near future if I have anything to say about it - hubby decided this breeding thing) I will for sure go with maternal incubation again but I'll be sure to get a temp gun and a helix-type thermostat instead of the el-cheapo reptitherm that I have.

    I have to say, Quiet Tempest is my favorite breeder gal. She inspired me with maternal incubation even if I had a cooler incubator as well. I think it was a more educational experience for my kids and it fit perfectly with our holistic lifestyle.

    QT, congratulations on another year of successful breeding. I love looking at your pics! I'm praying that you get a pied baby this time. 52 days waiting... man, that is a long time.
    That's really sweet of you to say. Thank you!

    Maternal incubation is definitely a rewarding experience and I hope you enjoyed yours even if mom flaked out at the end. I think her leaving the eggs was a fluke and hopefully it won't happen this way if you maternally incubate clutches in the future. I think if you go this route next year this experience will help you be better prepared for anything/everything that goes along with it, too. If the temp was low, it could very well be that it's just going to take a while longer for babies to emerge. Just keep an eye on them and don't let them dry out.



    I'm reeeeeeeally hoping for a pied of my own in this last clutch. Pieds are what got me interested in breeding balls in the first place and if I can produce one of my own I'll be ecstatic!

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    I just spent the last half hour reading this thread and looking at the videos.

    I must say this is very informative, and the videos were awesome, thanks for sharing all this. Congratulations on the 2 clutches and I am crossing my fingers for you for at least 1 pied if not more!

    I have been breeding mud turtles for a few months now, which is totally different, but I want to attempt to breed my BP's next year. I might give a try at maternal incubation with my normal female, it seems very natural and it's a very special experience that I would love to experiment.

    Thanks for this thread
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    Thanks for the compliments.

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    The pics are kinda lousy, but here we are on Day 10. I wish September would hurry up and get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    The pics are kinda lousy, but here we are on Day 10. I wish September would hurry up and get here.
    Man, QT! I don't know how you do that! We tried that with the pastel I got and there was no way we could stick a flashlight in there without a good vicious tagging.

    42 more days to go and looking good! Keep the pics coming!
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    yay more babies! fingers crossed for ya

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