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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    What's wrong with her site? I used it extensively like 10 years ago when I was keeping water dragons.

    Aside from the plethora of bad information?

    Aside from her anti-pet agenda?

    Nothing, nothing at all.

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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    What's wrong with her site? I used it extensively like 10 years ago when I was keeping water dragons.
    There are people who STILL insist that corn snakes can be fed crickets because of her site. She REALLY doesn't know what she's talking about unless it's an iguana.
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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    I took a peek, and there is nothing on her site about feeding crickets to corn snakes.

    I didn't see much to suggest an anti-pet agenda, but of course she has strong opinions on people being prepared before they consider getting a reptile pet--particularly a green iguana, which is one of the more high maintenance and troublesome animals to keep.

    Perhaps you're speaking of something that was up in the past. Dunno.
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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    I took a peek, and there is nothing on her site about feeding crickets to corn snakes.
    It's here under natural history: http://www.anapsid.org/corn.html

    I've seen people using this as a defense for attempting to feed corns crickets, pretty sad.

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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    I took a peek, and there is nothing on her site about feeding crickets to corn snakes.
    Quote from her web site.

    While the Elaphes feed on everything ranging from fish to frogs to rodents to mammals, wild Corns start off feeding on small invertebrates and vertebrates, such as crickets. Corns lay eggs, becoming sexually mature at around two years of age.
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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    I took a peek, and there is nothing on her site about feeding crickets to corn snakes.

    I didn't see much to suggest an anti-pet agenda, but of course she has strong opinions on people being prepared before they consider getting a reptile pet--particularly a green iguana, which is one of the more high maintenance and troublesome animals to keep.

    Perhaps you're speaking of something that was up in the past. Dunno.

    You didn't look hard enough.

    Two minutes, two articles concerning her pro-ban views and a veritable slew of bad information and anti-pet crapaganda.

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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Is there any way to know what store she's talking about? I'm in SoCal and I have a feeling I know which store it is. There aren't many reptile-specialty shops with 'hundreds' of bp's in the back in a rack system, and there are far fewer successful enough to afford to wire their whole shop with an evesdropping machine.
    can you tell me what store you are thinking of because i live in SoCal and now im all freaked out i would appreciate it!

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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Corns are most active at night or in the hours of dawn and dusk (crepuscular). While they are primarily ground-dwellers, some are semi-arboreal. While the Elaphes feed on everything ranging from fish to frogs to rodents to mammals, wild Corns start off feeding on small invertebrates and vertebrates, such as crickets. Corns lay eggs, becoming sexually mature at around two years of age.


    Funny stuff almost as funny as a cop going who are you when informing him of the new law in az lmao yes wow what a night

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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Has anyone attempted to ascertain if wild corn snake hatchlings EVER eat invertebrates? It's important to make sure it's really untrue before condemning it. I think it's also important to ascertain if any authorities said that it was true way back in 1994 when that article was written. It could have been an honest error based on the knowledge of the time.

    Has anyone contacted her, and asked her to correct it?

    I'll concede that it's quite bad--I never saw it before. Thanks for the link.
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    Re: Have you guys read this sad IBD story?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Has anyone attempted to ascertain if wild corn snake hatchlings EVER eat invertebrates? It's important to make sure it's really untrue before condemning it. I think it's also important to ascertain if any authorities said that it was true way back in 1994 when that article was written. It could have been an honest error based on the knowledge of the time.

    Has anyone contacted her, and asked her to correct it?

    I'll concede that it's quite bad--I never saw it before. Thanks for the link.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Snake



    Corn snakes have a diet primarily consisting of rodents, mostly mice and rats. Prey is killed by constriction. They are proficient climbers and may scale trees in search of birds and bats although they prefer to be on ground level. As litters of infant mice are difficult to find in nature, many neonate Corn snakes are known to eat small lizards as their first meals, and anoles are the preferred choice.[citation needed] Some individuals retain these dietary tendencies well into adulthood.
    Captive corn snakes are usually fed by their owners on a diet of commercially available rodents, predominantly mice, while younger and smaller specimens may eat live or dead rat or mouse pups of various sizes. Frozen mice that have been thawed to room temperature are usually preferred, as live prey can possibly carry disease or injure the snake if it has not been raised on live prey.

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