Which Caramel Albinos lines...

[Royal Morphz]

you cannot beat the "caramel + ultramel" COMBO. you need both, combined they are amazing! when bred together they make the best of both morphs look even better, but you need both to do it.

I would like to see the proof in the pudding of the above statement. Pics please.

[B.P.D]

Vin Russo actually made a caramel Ultramel. He calls it the Camarillo ball. Here is a link leading to the backround of how he produced it and pictures comparing to the ultramel and caramel.http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/pythons/list.nhtml

You have to scroll down a little bit to see.

[joe23]

if i understand that text right (not 100%sure) is the camarillo a mix out of 2 different caramel lines (the rootbeer like and the yellow like)- not caramel and ultramel--

[Ryan Young]

Vins Text is confusing and not correct. Vins Camarilos are of normal Bell line Caramel blood crossed with the snake now called Crider balls wich are probably the same morph as the Ultramel. The combo (double morph and 1/16) is one of the most amazing morphs out there. Here is a Crider ball next to a Ultramel.

Ryan Young

[BlueCinder]

Ditch the Caramel idea and go....

ULTRAMEL!!!!

No kinking, and richer colors.....

I LOVE THE ULTRAMEL!! one of my many dream morphs, However, I LOVE caramels as well.
And im actually in th eprocess of saving up for an ultramel ,(so excited)

But i have had my mind set on caramels as well, and i would just like some opinions on the different lines, and which ones are better

[BlueCinder]

I thought the ultramel werent compatiable with ANY of the caramel lines??

[coldbloodaddict]

I thought the ultramel werent compatiable with ANY of the caramel lines??

They aren't...

[BlueCinder]

They aren't...

thought so ...

[GameBred]

@ BlueCinder,
Hope this helps bro.

http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=12137

[AwBaillie]

I thought the discussion with Greg Graziani was in a forum, but as my gf told me again, it was in an interview on Reptile Radio, that he explains on lower temp incubating of the morph(s) in question, seem to lead to none of the physical or neurological issues.

Its worth the listen if you have the time, should be the first broadcast currently on there, titled something along the lines of "Special Announcement from Greg Graziani."