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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    wow...... the coolest part of the retic (the eyes) dont look like they passed along..... Im personaly not a fan of hybrids..... Dont personally understand crossing 2 animals that would never possibly happen in nature.....

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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    I really hope that the offspring will inherit the Ball python's docility and the Retic's readiness to feed...NOT the "feeding response"/"cage aggression" of the Retic and the Ball's refusal to feed

    But wishful thinking aside, hybridized pythons prolly won't be able to survive in the wild...does this mean the dream of "domesticated reptiles" is closer than we think?

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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    Very cool looking
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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    The only hybrids I have ever found attractive were Ligers and Mules. I still dont see why people want to force animals to breed that should never breed. Goody temporary hybrid vigor, oh hey look hybrid breakdown in the second/third generation. Well, time to make a new first generation, du-hur.
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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    The only hybrids I have ever found attractive were Ligers and Mules. I still dont see why people want to force animals to breed that should never breed. Goody temporary hybrid vigor, oh hey look hybrid breakdown in the second/third generation. Well, time to make a new first generation, du-hur.
    A lot of hybrids are usually sterile.

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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    A lot of hybrids are usually sterile.
    I know, I was talking about when they arent. Ultimately they break down, F1/F2 could retain hybrid vigor, but it almost always breaks down in time, either to sterile offspring, failure to thrive, or death in the egg/shortly after conception.
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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    I know, I was talking about when they arent. Ultimately they break down, F1/F2 could retain hybrid vigor, but it almost always breaks down in time, either to sterile offspring, failure to thrive, or death in the egg/shortly after conception.
    Generally, the hybrids are bred back to one of the parent species. However, there are numerous colubrid hybrids running around that have absolutely no issues.

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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    Generally, the hybrids are bred back to one of the parent species. However, there are numerous colubrid hybrids running around that have absolutely no issues.
    Really? How many generations and what difference between parent species? Same genus, different?
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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Really? How many generations and what difference between parent species? Same genus, different?
    Well, in cornsnakes, they'll breed to other rat snakes (same genus, both new world and old world) kingsnakes (different genus). Then there's the other colubrids. I haven't been able to search up any issues. There have been hybrids bred past the f5 generation and there are also three way crosses (king x milk x corn). F1 clutches have the most issues, but what I've found, once you get past F1, there's no issues.

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    Re: yes, another hybrid thread...

    That's pretty crazy. Just goes to point out the differences between mammals, which probably are where most data is taken from, and reptiles. Hrm, wonder how many chromosomes/genes these species have. Same number of chromosomes would make things easier.
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