Housing Question

[Jay_Bunny]

Since I'm going to be breeding leopard geckos in the future, I was trying to come up with an idea for housing multiple geckos in a small amount of space. Would something like this work?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-...-White/8282897

If so, what size breeding group could go in there?

[Jay_Bunny]

Anyone?

[Clementine_3]

The floor space is roughly the same size as a 20 gallon long. I (and this is just me) would think you could keep 2 adults per tub, not enough room for more. I'd shoot for 2 females together, provided they get along with each other and keep the male(s) separate, introduced for breeding only. IMO, that size is too small for 2 females and a male, and 1.1 can put too much stress on the female as guys will be guys...she would be pestered constantly.
I'm sure there are a lot of folks who will disagree with my conservative view, but that's what I would do if I were going to breed and use that set-up.

[jjmitchell]

to difficult to heat ........ I will stick with a tub in my bp rack or a tank

[RichsBallPythons]

it will work as long as the bottom of each tub isnt the top for the one below it. Other wise your fine with it.

[Boanerges]

Generally 1 leo per 10 gallon space is the rule of thumb. Never put 2 males together as the will fight. I agree with Clementine_3 with the 2 females (the same size) and no more if the FLOOR space is the size of a 20 gallon tank. I personally never and do not like housing multiples together. With one leo per tub you know exactly how much that leo is eating, if it is eating, what that leo's poop looks like, you don't have to worry about one being bullied, some don't do well housed with others and will stress and stop eating, etc. If one gets sick you don't have to worry about any others getting sick also. BUT many, many people house multiples together and don't have a problem so to each their own. I also would not use the tub you are thinking to use for the leo's personally but that is just me. It would be a good thing for breeding supers or mealies but not for holding leo's IMO. But you could give it a shot and see if it worked for you. I would build one out of melamine if you could or even this would work great: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=97598 Anyways, these are just some of my thoughts and good luck with whatever you decide to do

[Jay_Bunny]

With that frugal herpers rack, would those blue pans be large enough for 1 leo to live comfortably and introduce a male only for breeding? Also, could those tubs be used for juvie ball pythons or corn snakes? (because I love a rack that can be interchangable)

Also, I had a question about heat. The snake room currently sits at 80 with the AC running. There is always a 10-15 degree difference between the downstairs and upstairs. If I close the vent (or in the case of a broken AC like we had a while ago) the temps in the snake room can get up to a little under 90, usually staying around 85-88. Now, I know that leos should have a warm spot of around 88 or so and around 78 on the cool side. I got the cool side at the right temp when the AC is on without a heat source. When I turn the AC off, temps in the room are right around where the hot side should be. So if I were to close the AC vent, do I need to use a heat source for my leo? Even with the AC on, wouldn't a lamp or heat pad be too much?

[Boanerges]

I know the solid pans are cat litter tubs but I do not know how big they are floor space wise so I don't know off the top of my head if 2 leos could fit in there. If you go to walmart you could measure a 32qt tub and see if it could slide in the space sideways instead of how the tubs are in there now. That type of rack would work for corns and balls that will fit into the tubs. I always kept my leos in the same racks as my ball pythons and it worked out great. Whatever yourball pythons are comfortable at temp wise I would imagine the leos would be too. If the air temps in your room are really high that is not good because non of your animals can thermoregulate. In the wild if they are too hot they can go in a hole under ground to cool off. In a tub they can't really cool off if the air temps are too hot unless they submerge in their water bowel or something.