Pied options, breeding tips.

[ru8fru]

Heyyy guys. Ive been on these forums daily soaking in the info and I have a honest question.

I have 3 ball pythons. One male pied (320 grams) one female pied (600 grams) and a female normal (300 grams)

Origionally I thought of just breeding my male pied to my female pied and just have a nice clutch full of pieds. Butttt the more ive been on here the more it seems that might not be my best move. It almost seems as breeding a spider or and albino or something to my male or female might be better to get spiders het for pied or normals het for albino and pied? How do recessives to recessives work? Obviously with the weights I still have a while before I can breed, so I think I will probably make one more pickup before then. Just trying to kind of get a idea of where the pied market is going. Thanks!!!

[chago11]

i would get a couple morph females. males can breed with more then one female so if i were you i would get a female mojave because in my opinion the mojave pied is the best pied combo. If you can afford it get a spinner so you can get spiders and pinstripes het pied. then pick up a pastel het pied for your female or just breed your pied to her.

[loonunit]

I would breed the pied to the pied, sell the babies, and use the $$$ to pick up some new girls for your boy.

[ru8fru]

like what kind of new girls?

I might pick up some other female morph or het for my male pied. Any ideas? whats the weight requirements?

[h00blah]

pied combos can be difficult. i haven't seen too many impressive pied combos except for the albino pied or the axanthic pied but those are both double recessive...

i would probably just breed the pieds and make more pieds. or you can buy an albino female and sell norms double het for pied / albino!!

expensive hets much =o

edit: actually. i would just make albino/pied double hets!!! sell those hets - with that cheddar, buy some double co-doms

[ru8fru]

pied combos can be difficult. i haven't seen too many impressive pied combos except for the albino pied or the axanthic pied but those are both double recessive...

i would probably just breed the pieds and make more pieds. or you can buy an albino female and sell norms double het for pied / albino!!

expensive hets much =o

edit: actually. i would just make albino/pied double hets!!! sell those hets - with that cheddar, buy some double co-doms

so I was right you can get a double het normal. Weird! so how exactly would that factor into producing an albino pied? Would you have to breed them together? Or back to the parent? Can snakes be bred to family (as opposed to humans or mammals) without any adverse affects?

[mrobert875]

so I was right you can get a double het normal. Weird! so how exactly would that factor into producing an albino pied? Would you have to breed them together? Or back to the parent? Can snakes be bred to family (as opposed to humans or mammals) without any adverse affects?

albino to pied would give you all double hets.
breeding your double hets together would give you a 1 in 16 chance of hitting albino pieds.

if you end up going for albino pieds you want to hold back all your females to better your chances.

[Oxylepy]

I have to go with loonunit. Breed the Pieds, trade/sell them. Get some Double/Triple morph snakes, then work with those with your 2 existing girls (who by then will be breeding weight).

With BPs females are where the money is at, you need a few, of various morphs/combos to really set yourself up, and getting breeding age morph females can be hard. So breed for cash/trade as soon as you get a chance then stock up on females and a few males.

[ru8fru]

I see I see. Anbody else? What about breeding related ball pythons together? No problems there? So is there any better way to get better odds then 1/16 on a albino pied other then having one already? If I breed my pieds together how many eggs could I expect from a first time mother? like 4? 4 pied babys, man thatd be soooooooo cool. Although for future pied combos. I kind of dislike spider pieds and clown pieds. Really like albino pieds and anthaxtic pieds. Any thoughts are helpful!!

Here are my male and female currently, The girl is the high white. Thanks again!

[Orlandoflor]

cause you got a female pied breed a lesser spinner spider or any other morph that is co dom or dominate and then keep a baby male who would be 100 het pied and then next year breed him back to your female and get good looking pieds