I never claimed he was out but all he really did for the majority of the time on his back was cover up his head.which as I stated and will again IN MY OPINION he did not do.Now I know that he didn't land a lot of punches but the ones that hit their mark were signifigant.With another ref or a less publicized fight it easyly could have been stopped(I know I've seen stoppage on less severe beatings) Reguardless how you feel about the end result it was exciting to watch and I have respect for both fighters due to the sportsmanship demonstrated at the start of the 2nd round.Personally I would love to see a Carwin vs Lesnar rematch in the near future.