OMG... ASFs are magic!!

[Lolo76]

Looks like I'll be calling East Bay Vivarium. I have a girl who has been off feed for 5 months now. She acts interested whenever prey is offered, flicking her tongue and even getting in a striking position, but then she just loses interest. She used to be an amazing feeder, ate anything. Fingers crossed an ASF will get her to eat again.

Hayward Reptile Room is a bit closer to you, so you might check with them too... there's also a guy who does deliveries (mice & rats) along 680/880, and he advertises on Craigslist. Good luck, and I'll let you know if I find anything first!

[Lolo76]

@Chris: They're illegal in cali because cali likes to make things illegal, especially with regards to animals.

If what I said is true, there's nothing illogical about that... and might I remind you, we did legalize something every other state should. But I agree some of our laws are silly, and there is definitely a prejudice against certain animals here - particularly bully breed dogs.

Whats ridiculous is the state of California, what a joke, its the silliest place on earth in my opinion, its where alot of people like to go to bury their heads in the sand. Im not saying everyone in California is bad, I am just saying the state itself is the very incarnation of evil, circa 1984.

(Sorry about the almost completely unrelated post, lol)

We should probably save this discussion for "off topic/quarantine," but I'm not really sure I get your point. Can't speak for everyone here, but I came to California as a child (age 6) with my family - so I had no reason to bury my head in sand at that age, LOL. I happen to love California, and think it gets an unnecessarily bad reputation... it's a HUGE state with tons of great stuff to offer, and people of literally every type. How can you generalize about a place like that? And what happened in 1984 that has you so mad?

[Lolo76]

Congrats on getting her to eat!

I'm now very iffy about buying or taking in adult ball pythons. I've had to deal with a situation like that with a pair of adults last year. They will still only take small live mice. Good luck getting a female big enough to breed on mice. I hope my female will make it this year.

It can also happen with babies you raise, so there's no guarantee... I've had Delilah since she was practically a worm, and she's NEVER eaten a rat for me. She eats 2-3 mice per feeding now, and yes her growth isn't that great - barely 800g at 1.5 years old, versus ~1200g on my rat-eating girl of the same age. I expect the latter (a het albino) to breed this winter, but Delilah probably won't be ready until 2011-12.

Didn't know ASF's were illegal in some states. No offense, but in many ways, California is just weird.

And that's why I love it so much!

[Tikall]

Hayward Reptile Room is a bit closer to you, so you might check with them too... there's also a guy who does deliveries (mice & rats) along 680/880, and he advertises on Craigslist. Good luck, and I'll let you know if I find anything first!

Yeah I know of that CL guy . I've tried live and f/t mice and rats pretty much every week or every other week since she's been off feed, though. She's being very weird, acting hungry but not eating. I think the smell of an ASF could really get her back on track if I can get access to some. I'll ask Hayward Reptile Room! I haven't been there before, so I'll call ahead.

[Ham]

If what I said is true, there's nothing illogical about that... and might I remind you, we did legalize something every other state should. But I agree some of our laws are silly, and there is definitely a prejudice against certain animals here - particularly bully breed dogs.



We should probably save this discussion for "off topic/quarantine," but I'm not really sure I get your point. Can't speak for everyone here, but I came to California as a child (age 6) with my family - so I had no reason to bury my head in sand at that age, LOL. I happen to love California, and think it gets an unnecessarily bad reputation... it's a HUGE state with tons of great stuff to offer, and people of literally every type. How can you generalize about a place like that? And what happened in 1984 that has you so mad?

I dont have a problem with people from California, maybe a few of em, lol...

I am just saying that the state has a terrible tendency to over legislate everything, and that the state can attract certain types of people and lawmakers because of that fact... and I was referring to 1984 the novel by George Orwell, because I think there are some similarities between the book and California...

PS I think that the physical landmass of California is a great place full of diverse environments, animals, and people, but I just think their politics are nuts...

Again sorry for the off topic post...

[Lolo76]

and I was referring to 1984 the novel by George Orwell, because I think there are some similarities between the book and California...

Oh geez... as a librarian, you'd think I would have caught that reference!

PS I think that the physical landmass of California is a great place full of diverse environments, animals, and people, but I just think their politics are nuts...

Again sorry for the off topic post...

It's okay, we do have some wacky politics going on here... but I think the rest makes up for it.

[MarkieJ]

Lolo, which San Diego shop did you get the ASFs from?