OMG... ASFs are magic!!

[twh]

Yup. Its ridiculous.

what's ridiculous about a state protecting itself from envasive species that wreck havoc with the enviroment and local economy?

why is it so hard to look at BOTH sides of the coin?

[Ham]

Whats ridiculous is the state of California, what a joke, its the silliest place on earth in my opinion, its where alot of people like to go to bury their heads in the sand. Im not saying everyone in California is bad, I am just saying the state itself is the very incarnation of evil, circa 1984.

(Sorry about the almost completely unrelated post, lol)

[WingedWolfPsion]

On the slightly disappointing side, if she ate for you, she is not gravid--at least, not post-ovulation. If she is pre-ovulation, you should still be pairing her up.

[BaierBalls]

I had a female pastel that had always been a great eater, but right when she hit about 1,000g, she decided to fast for several months. It was very frustrating, and I was iffy about offering ASFs. But after almost 4 months I went ahead and got some live ASFs...offered them to her, and like "magic," she ate two of them back to back and was loving it. The next week I offered her a regular rat and she ate it and loved it.

It was like the ASF broke her fast, but reminded her that she loved food, not just ASFs. After the ASF, she gets excited to eat anything now. Since I have ASFs breeding now, I offer them once in a while to all my snakes....for a treat. Knock on wood, but I haven't had any that rejected rats or mice once they had an ASF. My young snakes eat rats, mice and ASFs all interchangeably.

Seems almost like an ASF now and then keeps everyone excited to eat anything...no matter what type of rodent it is.

[Flowerbridge]

Couldn't be said any better.

I don't understand what's with these fanatics, it's almost scary.

Agriculture is a HUGE part of the state's economy, and we provide a ton of food for the nation. We might be the largest food producing state, but I can't find any immediate citation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy...de_and_tourism

I care more about people being able to eat and the possibility of many economy not being screwed up more so than anything related to someone's pet.

what's ridiculous about a state protecting itself from invasive species that wreck havoc with the environment and local economy?

why is it so hard to look at BOTH sides of the coin?

Would you care to enlighten me as to what occurred in 1984?

Whats ridiculous is the state of California, what a joke, its the silliest place on earth in my opinion, its where alot of people like to go to bury their heads in the sand. Im not saying everyone in California is bad, I am just saying the state itself is the very incarnation of evil, circa 1984.

(Sorry about the almost completely unrelated post, lol)

[angllady2]

You want to know what is weird ?

In Missouri it is illegal to own them, but not to sell them.

Some states are backward about a lot of things, otherwise we wouldn't be worried about our snakes being banned.

Gale

[cschneider]

You can also try to take an asf and rub it on a mouse or rat to get the scent to transfer. Sometimes you can fool them and if that works, you can switch after a few feeds.

[Tikall]

Looks like I'll be calling East Bay Vivarium. I have a girl who has been off feed for 5 months now. She acts interested whenever prey is offered, flicking her tongue and even getting in a striking position, but then she just loses interest. She used to be an amazing feeder, ate anything. Fingers crossed an ASF will get her to eat again.

[mechnut450]

i bet if you go to the pet shop and look for fancy mice you will see a asf. i seen them called that here (some kind of loop hole for some sellers).
i know they ran about 15 bucks around here per rodent.
i got a reall pain with mine prefering alive mice or rat pups over anything

[Lolo76]

On the slightly disappointing side, if she ate for you, she is not gravid--at least, not post-ovulation. If she is pre-ovulation, you should still be pairing her up.

That's what I was thinking later, and it does make sense. I wasn't going to pair her again this season, due to the crazy fast... but now that she's eating again, I'll let Toby or Dave have another go at her. Even before this meal she was still weighing ~1700g, so I assume that is big enough!