First time feeding Baby a cornished game hen

[jtyson123]

I think if the snake likes to climb that its okay.. i mean.. thefact they spend all thier time on the ground or not, doesnt matter

you gotta remember these are captive animals. in the wild they dont go into trees becuase the mice ect, aka thier food is on the ground

in captivity, they learn that they dont need to be on the ground, and they dont need to even move to get food, it comes to them, usually the same day ever 7 days or every 10 - 14 days

So treating snakes like they are in the wild is kinda stupid in captivity....


Just my

Right totally agree. we should see if parrots can adapt to aquatic set ups. Why would we want to mimic anything natural? - - - Lol Just Kidding

You are right, in captivity these animals don't have to do anything at all. and if it likes to climb, climb away! But you would figure that all the folks who have been doing this for a lot of years would have arboreal cages if that was what ideal conditions would be for the snakes in captivity.

I didn't say to change anything. If the snake is healthy, eats well and seems happy, its fine. The cage is above and beyond good enough. It has more than enough floor space, and it has room to climb since this guy likes to. The OP has a good looking snake and a nice set up.

[jtyson123]

Ok. I thank you for your input. Actually, I am building him a new zoo- like display in a wall in my home, with access to the enclosure through the other side. It will look like any other zoo enclosure you see with Burmese or any other giant species. I will be SURE to enclose photos when it is fully complete. Freinds???

That sounds awesome. I would love to do that with my big guys. Not only should you post finished pics, but maybe even a how to. I can't imagine it would be terribly hard, but its always nice to see how someone else has made it work

[5snakes]

I for get where I posted how we made the enclosure that you see here, But I most definitely will. Oh, by the way, I own my own home, and my neighbors are super cool and know what I have in my home. I was saying I let him roam inside my house with me. I have other posts of stories about my Baby. Check them out if you are interested.
Like I said, I have the up most respect for my fellow keepers, I only ask for the same. I hope we can share stories in the future.

[5snakes]

This has gone too far here. I thought it was cool to tell a story about something unusual and we have a some what strange debate. Of course we want to make our reptiles as close to a simulated wild enclosure as we can. There is another thing I would like to point out. species adapt. It doesn`t matter what kind it is. Not saying a parrot will start to swim. that is just out there. I see your point, but I think if you are a part of a forum, we all should respect what the other is saying. So, with that in mind, I am glad we are all friends here, and lets all try to be nice and respectful with eachother.... unless deserved otherwise.. I believe it is up to a Mod to deside.

[5snakes]

The OP has a good looking snake and a nice set up. Buy the way, I`m not up to par with chat lingo. I hope "OP" is a nice word.

[5snakes]

The OP has a good looking snake and a nice set up. Buy the way, I`m not up to par with chat lingo. I hope "OP" is a nice word.

I would hate to start in a new forum with people that don`t like me for whatever reason...

[jtyson123]

This has gone too far here. I thought it was cool to tell a story about something unusual and we have a some what strange debate. Of course we want to make our reptiles as close to a simulated wild enclosure as we can. There is another thing I would like to point out. species adapt. It doesn`t matter what kind it is. Not saying a parrot will start to swim. that is just out there. I see your point, but I think if you are a part of a forum, we all should respect what the other is saying. So, with that in mind, I am glad we are all friends here, and lets all try to be nice and respectful with eachother.... unless deserved otherwise.. I believe it is up to a Mod to deside.

Didn't mean to come across rude, I was just joking because of the other person's post about it being stupid to try to mimic any sort of natural habitat. Species do adapt, but more often than not, its best not to assume they will just get used to things. I am not referring to your snake, just animals in general.

[jtyson123]

The OP has a good looking snake and a nice set up. Buy the way, I`m not up to par with chat lingo. I hope "OP" is a nice word.

OP is Original Poster. Nothing bad. Just one of the many acronyms to get used to. I still haven't figured out even a small percentage of them out and I have been on a variety of forums for almost 5 years so don't worry

[mumps]

I know this thread started on the subject of eating a hen (my burm is very picky and will only take whole chickens on his own - I stuff rabbits in his mouth when he's almost swallowed the chicken), but seems to have strayed into the ever popular housing debate.

Certainly people keep their animals in different ways. Some people keep their snakes only to make money. Some people strive to provide the best possible environment for their charges.

I think providing a large, zoo-like enclosure for one's burm is awesome. I think the notion that providing a square foot per foot of snake is absolutely deplorable. An 8x3 is sufficient for a 24 foot snake? You've got to be kidding. I think those guidelines might work for hidebox dimensions!

And whoever said burms aren't arboreal? Give them the space, and they'll use it. A lot of people want to make themselves feel better for providing crappy living conditions for their animals, and suggest these terrible cage dimensions, saying the animal doesn't have to look for food therefore doesn't have to move at all. What a crock! If your animals are so happy in these enclosures, how about leaving the door open; see what happens. Oh my god! It moved!

Anyway, just taking the opportunity to rant a little. Sorry.

I also think a 7 year old male burm should be larger than 11 feet, but that's a whole other post.

Chris

[jtyson123]

I know this thread started on the subject of eating a hen (my burm is very picky and will only take whole chickens on his own - I stuff rabbits in his mouth when he's almost swallowed the chicken), but seems to have strayed into the ever popular housing debate.

Certainly people keep their animals in different ways. Some people keep their snakes only to make money. Some people strive to provide the best possible environment for their charges.

I think providing a large, zoo-like enclosure for one's burm is awesome. I think the notion that providing a square foot per foot of snake is absolutely deplorable. An 8x3 is sufficient for a 24 foot snake? You've got to be kidding. I think those guidelines might work for hidebox dimensions!

And whoever said burms aren't arboreal? Give them the space, and they'll use it. A lot of people want to make themselves feel better for providing crappy living conditions for their animals, and suggest these terrible cage dimensions, saying the animal doesn't have to look for food therefore doesn't have to move at all. What a crock! If your animals are so happy in these enclosures, how about leaving the door open; see what happens. Oh my god! It moved!

Anyway, just taking the opportunity to rant a little. Sorry.

I also think a 7 year old male burm should be larger than 11 feet, but that's a whole other post.

Chris

Minimum space requirements are stated, not what I suggested. I personally believe with these giants, the more room you have for them, the better. As for them not being arboreal I didn't say that. I said they aren't really arboreal. They are semi arboreal by nature. But the truth is, with a snake 100+ lbs and over 10ft, thats a lot of meat to hang on to branches. I can't imagine a snake nearing 200lbs attempting to climb much of anything. I would LOVE to see a picture of a giant hanging in a tree in captivity, or especially in the wild. If anyone has any please post! Sorry for the thread hijack

I am guilty of taking it in the wrong direction. My bad! Maybe we should move this housing discussion elsewhere, or just give it up since none of us will ever agree entirely