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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    Is lice shampoo, diluted to 2oz of shampoo within 128oz of water, really toxic to anything other than lice? I would think not.

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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by vintod View Post
    Is lice shampoo, diluted to 2oz of shampoo within 128oz of water, really toxic to anything other than lice? I would think not.
    There is a good reason why you take out the snake and the water bowl before treating the enclosure.

    This stuff is meant to KILL pests. It should not be ingested by something you want to keep ALIVE.
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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    I was worried that I sprayed the snake with the mixure and that she was in contact with it while I cleaned the enclosure after reading this stuff. She seems to be doing okay - she ate fine afterwards, only difference is she is now in a ball on the cooler side of the tank.

    I was working from this set of instructions that I found online before catching up on all your posts:

    http://www.albertareptilesociety.org/caresheets/nix.pdf

    Look at the second bullet point under "eradicating the snake mites." - it says SPRAY THE SNAKE LIBERALLY! what the heck!

    For future questions I will patiently wait for responses here - you guys are fast and thorough enough, and I appreciate the help.

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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    I would never spray poison on my snakes.
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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    There is never any reason to put pesticides for mites directly onto the snake, no matter what it says. The reasons for this are that the mites only hang onto the snakes while feeding, after they get a full blood meal they drop off and lay their eggs into the substrate, so as long as the substrate is treated then the mites will not be able to survive. A number of anti mite pesticides have been suspected of causing neurological damage to snakes, so it is important to be very cautious when using them. I only use Provent-a-Mite, it is a name brand and has been shown to be the most effective and the most safe product for snakes and other reptiles, some people may use other stuff that they say has the same active ingredient but legally they only have to list the general family name for that series of chemicals on these cans, Provent-A-Mite uses a specific compound out of that family of pesticides which once it dries is harmless to the reptile, spray it onto the substrate let it air dry outside (dont spray it indoors, or into the snakes waterbowl), once it dries out the snake can be returned to his enclosure. I have used the Provent-A-Mite when I got snake mites in my collection, it only took 1 treatment to completely eradicate the mite problem. This stuff will last for more than a month after being sprayed, it can remain lethal to mites for much longer, but it slowly loses its effectivness.

    You gotta remember you are using what amounts to a chemical weapon, this stuff is similar to nerve gas. Dont put it onto your snake, even if he seems fine now toxins can build up in his body and can cause all sorts of damage that may go unnoticed for long periods of time. Would you want to take a can of Raid bug killer and use it as underarm spray deoderant? obviously not!

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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    go online to dr. Foster`s .com and there is a spray bottle that is called reptile spray, or mite off... There are may organic things you can get on line to fix snake mites!!!!!!!
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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by 5snakes View Post
    go online to dr. Foster`s .com and there is a spray bottle that is called reptile spray, or mite off... There are may organic things you can get on line to fix snake mites!!!!!!!
    They don't work. They only provide temporary relief. If you only use mite off, you will be constantly battling mites.
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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Snake mites will NOT be found on rodents. Mites that infest rodents will be a completely different species from those that infest reptiles, and they will not transfer between them.

    If there are snake mites in the pet store, you are more likely to bring them home on dry goods, where they may wander into your cages. (I wound up with a minor, mysterious mite outbreak last year, and have to assume that's how it happened--I breed my own rodents). I keep a can of PAM on hand for such potentials.

    So, do not treat, spray, or worry about the feeder rodents bringing in mites to your snakes. They won't. A snake mite that wandered onto a rodent would wander right back off of it again, at the same pace.
    This is wrong. Mites can and do hitch rides on rodents. Especially petstore rodents. They may not feed on the mice, but they do use them for transport.

    Treat your bedding, the rodent bedding, and you'll be fine. Wait a day or two after treatment to feed your snake.
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    Re: Spraying Mice with NIX before feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Judy, The OP is in new york, where PAM is illegal. NIX has the same active ingredient (and the same amount of that ingredient) that PAM does. It works exactly the same.
    I know I'm late to this, but this argument when comparing other products to PAM always bothers me. Greatly.

    My can of PAM says that the active ingredient, Permethrin makes up .50% of the ingredients and lists "Other Ingredients" as 99.5% of the makeup.

    Since the "other ingredients" are not listed, it makes ZERO sense to me the claims that Nix or any other product is EXACTLY the same.

    Does anyone have access to proprietary information in order to make that claim?

    Not jumping on you Kaorte, but I see that claim bandied around everywhere you go, and it's so inaccurate.

    OK off my

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