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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
I have a its email where says that it regards also the price obviously at a distance of 1 year the costs of animals have decreased, I do not have 10,000$, second you my customers wait for 1 year in order to withdraw own animals? what say I to they? I have had to by force modify escudendo gradually animals that cancelled to me, giving behind to they all the money, making an ugly figure with they mike I have spoken about you to hamm show, he friendly beloved and person much serious one in my comparisons, I always buy from he, I have bought from ralph Davis had etc. no problem only with allen belcher this problem, you do not have justifications… is a shame of that you are…
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
 Originally Posted by Big Daddy
As most know because of my disapproval of how Rich runs his site I can no longer respond on it, but here is some information on this site for yall.
I have applied for cities on Christian on three different ocassions because he kept changing his mind on the number of animals he wanted. To help you on the wait for cities, heres the information. Not everyone has the ability to ship overseas. In some states the availabity to export is not an option. this is the situation in Alabama. I would have to drive to Miami to export and this is a 14-16 hour trip depending on traffic one way. I use outside sources to do my shipping for me. This is how about half of the exports are done. The other breeders who have the ability to export close to where they live usually send off and obtain a master cities file which allows them to export ONLY THERE OWN ANIMALS that they produce in just a fews days. You will not find anyone who will ship anyone elses animals this way as it is a violation of there master cities file and would cause them to loose their file. for regular cities it is much different as you must do everything through old fashion mail and at best use a fax machine. The wait is at best from 2 months and can and usually does extend further out. Anyone can call US fish and game and once you get to the cities department line there is a recorded message that states (We are experiencing delays that are due to a high demand in cities exports, we are working hard to get your permits processed as soon as possible) I have several permits that I am waiting on right now. I can not control the government and neither can any of you. The permit will be in when they process it and not any sooner. Christian has flip-flopped animals on me several times during this process. If he would have had a better idea of what he wanted and not had to change the paperwork and start over then maybe he would have the animals by now. There was not a problem until I made him lock his animals in and would not allow him to change the snakes around that I have been holding-feeding-cleaning for him. I made him put the money down as I do on all new over seas clients for the first couple of orders. Christian has over $10,000.00 in animals on hold with me total. I am not letting him out of his agreement with me and when cities arrives he will be given the option to finish our contract or forfeit his money. I have explained this several times to him. I am tired of his childesh behavior and name calling. Funny how a computer can make a really big man out of some people. I have read the posts on this site and the other one. I took the bull by the horns and called Mike Wilbanks myself. Both Mike and myself agreed that I would not be sending him any animals. Christian has not even talked to Mike about this. Mike can not and will not ship my snakes to Christian! I know that to some of you I have had everything from IBD to HIV and all in between. I am threatened all the time that if I don't go the extra mile that someone will put me on a forum. I go the extra step for people all the time that don't even ask for it, but I will not be bullied by anyone. I give alot away by kindness but I will not stand for someone to take anything from me. Funny thing is that years later I am still around producing and selling top notch snakes for a great price. Can't say that for some! C
Christian when you paperwork comes in I will notify you. If you don't want to finish your agreement then you will NOT get your money back. I have stated this to you before so this is no surprise.
My old friend Joe, an erection lasting more than 4 hours in not good for your health. You really need to go get that hard on you have had for me for several years now checked. And "before I get hurt" really Joseph really!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772
All of which is your fault for promising services to which you have not delivered. The man deserves a refund. Plain and simple. Maybe next time you shouldn't offer to export animals if you can't make it work. The onus is on you here, not the buyer.
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
exact… beyond waiting for 1 year for having the cites, it does not want to give back the money and I do not have the animals, has said that if I do not take more the animals I lose all, account that I have given I do not see more,…. but when all this? perhaps between 2 -3 years I will have or the money or the animals? I must still be to wait for who? what?
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
 Originally Posted by Big Daddy
As most know because of my disapproval of how Rich runs his site I can no longer respond on it, but here is some information on this site for yall.
I have applied for cities on Christian on three different ocassions because he kept changing his mind on the number of animals he wanted. To help you on the wait for cities, heres the information. Not everyone has the ability to ship overseas. In some states the availabity to export is not an option. this is the situation in Alabama. I would have to drive to Miami to export and this is a 14-16 hour trip depending on traffic one way. I use outside sources to do my shipping for me. This is how about half of the exports are done. The other breeders who have the ability to export close to where they live usually send off and obtain a master cities file which allows them to export ONLY THERE OWN ANIMALS that they produce in just a fews days. You will not find anyone who will ship anyone elses animals this way as it is a violation of there master cities file and would cause them to loose their file. for regular cities it is much different as you must do everything through old fashion mail and at best use a fax machine. The wait is at best from 2 months and can and usually does extend further out. Anyone can call US fish and game and once you get to the cities department line there is a recorded message that states (We are experiencing delays that are due to a high demand in cities exports, we are working hard to get your permits processed as soon as possible) I have several permits that I am waiting on right now. I can not control the government and neither can any of you. The permit will be in when they process it and not any sooner. Christian has flip-flopped animals on me several times during this process. If he would have had a better idea of what he wanted and not had to change the paperwork and start over then maybe he would have the animals by now. There was not a problem until I made him lock his animals in and would not allow him to change the snakes around that I have been holding-feeding-cleaning for him. I made him put the money down as I do on all new over seas clients for the first couple of orders. Christian has over $10,000.00 in animals on hold with me total. I am not letting him out of his agreement with me and when cities arrives he will be given the option to finish our contract or forfeit his money. I have explained this several times to him. I am tired of his childesh behavior and name calling. Funny how a computer can make a really big man out of some people. I have read the posts on this site and the other one. I took the bull by the horns and called Mike Wilbanks myself. Both Mike and myself agreed that I would not be sending him any animals. Christian has not even talked to Mike about this. Mike can not and will not ship my snakes to Christian! I know that to some of you I have had everything from IBD to HIV and all in between. I am threatened all the time that if I don't go the extra mile that someone will put me on a forum. I go the extra step for people all the time that don't even ask for it, but I will not be bullied by anyone. I give alot away by kindness but I will not stand for someone to take anything from me. Funny thing is that years later I am still around producing and selling top notch snakes for a great price. Can't say that for some! C
Christian when you paperwork comes in I will notify you. If you don't want to finish your agreement then you will NOT get your money back. I have stated this to you before so this is no surprise.
My old friend Joe, an erection lasting more than 4 hours in not good for your health. You really need to go get that hard on you have had for me for several years now checked. And "before I get hurt" really Joseph really!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772
Then why are you shipping animals internationally anyway?
Seriously - give the man back his money (it's the RIGHT thing to do). If your sales are as good as you proclaim all the time, you'll have no trouble moving the animals domestically.
BTW, paragraph breaks would make your posts a lot more legible and easier to read.
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
 Originally Posted by Big Daddy
As most know because of my disapproval of how Rich runs his site I can no longer respond on it, but here is some information on this site for yall.
I have applied for cities on Christian on three different ocassions because he kept changing his mind on the number of animals he wanted. To help you on the wait for cities, heres the information. Not everyone has the ability to ship overseas. In some states the availabity to export is not an option. this is the situation in Alabama. I would have to drive to Miami to export and this is a 14-16 hour trip depending on traffic one way. I use outside sources to do my shipping for me. This is how about half of the exports are done. The other breeders who have the ability to export close to where they live usually send off and obtain a master cities file which allows them to export ONLY THERE OWN ANIMALS that they produce in just a fews days. You will not find anyone who will ship anyone elses animals this way as it is a violation of there master cities file and would cause them to loose their file. for regular cities it is much different as you must do everything through old fashion mail and at best use a fax machine. The wait is at best from 2 months and can and usually does extend further out. Anyone can call US fish and game and once you get to the cities department line there is a recorded message that states (We are experiencing delays that are due to a high demand in cities exports, we are working hard to get your permits processed as soon as possible) I have several permits that I am waiting on right now. I can not control the government and neither can any of you. The permit will be in when they process it and not any sooner. Christian has flip-flopped animals on me several times during this process. If he would have had a better idea of what he wanted and not had to change the paperwork and start over then maybe he would have the animals by now. There was not a problem until I made him lock his animals in and would not allow him to change the snakes around that I have been holding-feeding-cleaning for him. I made him put the money down as I do on all new over seas clients for the first couple of orders. Christian has over $10,000.00 in animals on hold with me total. I am not letting him out of his agreement with me and when cities arrives he will be given the option to finish our contract or forfeit his money. I have explained this several times to him. I am tired of his childesh behavior and name calling. Funny how a computer can make a really big man out of some people. I have read the posts on this site and the other one. I took the bull by the horns and called Mike Wilbanks myself. Both Mike and myself agreed that I would not be sending him any animals. Christian has not even talked to Mike about this. Mike can not and will not ship my snakes to Christian! I know that to some of you I have had everything from IBD to HIV and all in between. I am threatened all the time that if I don't go the extra mile that someone will put me on a forum. I go the extra step for people all the time that don't even ask for it, but I will not be bullied by anyone. I give alot away by kindness but I will not stand for someone to take anything from me. Funny thing is that years later I am still around producing and selling top notch snakes for a great price. Can't say that for some! C
Christian when you paperwork comes in I will notify you. If you don't want to finish your agreement then you will NOT get your money back. I have stated this to you before so this is no surprise.
My old friend Joe, an erection lasting more than 4 hours in not good for your health. You really need to go get that hard on you have had for me for several years now checked. And "before I get hurt" really Joseph really!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772
AHahahAHAHAHAhahaHAHAHAHahahAHAHahahah
You're still a lying sack of crap alan. No matter where you raise your shiny dome, you're still a craptacular specimen of all we shouldn't be.
Give the guy a refund you liar.
I may not be very smart, but what if I am?
Stinky says, "Women should be obscene but not heard." Stinky is one smart man.
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.
Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.
I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.
Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
 Originally Posted by Mike Wilbanks
Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.
Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.
I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.
Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.
Allen could learn a thing or two from Mike!
Eddie Strong, Jr. 
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
You are such a great role model for the community Mike. I don't know you, but hopefully will have the pleasure of dealing with you one day.
I vote free bp.net t-shirt! The world needs more people like you.
"Be not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." ~William Shakespeare
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0.1 Spider - Dizzy
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
 Originally Posted by Mike Wilbanks
Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.
Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.
I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.
Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.
Very generous offer Mike
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Re: who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?
 Originally Posted by Mike Wilbanks
Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.
Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.
I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.
Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.
That's a man right there I want to do business with...
When you've got 10,000 people trying to do the same thing, why would you want to be number 10,001? ~ Mark Cuban "for the discerning collector"
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