Best way to make a super cinny

[Adam Chandler]

Hey guys, I was just wondering if the different ways to make a Super Cinny have better results or not.

Would breeding a Cinny x Cinny be any different than breeding a Black Pastel x Black Pastel or a Cinny x Black Pastel?

I'm just wondering since different base morphs combos (mojos, lessers) make different kinds of Blue Eyed Lucy's if the same applied for Super Cinnamons.

[771subliminal]

Hey guys, I was just wondering if the different ways to make a Super Cinny have better results or not.

Would breeding a Cinny x Cinny be any different than breeding a Black Pastel x Black Pastel or a Cinny x Black Pastel?

I'm just wondering since different base morphs combos (mojos, lessers) make different kinds of Blue Eyed Lucy's if the same applied for Super Cinnamons.

a super cinny is only cinny x cinny.

heres a whole thread on the black pastel x cinny
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...n+black+pastel

[Boanerges]

I have heard breeding a Cinny x Black Pastel gives you a less of a chance of the super being duck billed. Maybe someone else can chime in on this...

[RandyRemington]

I've not yet made any black snakes myself but I was pretty skeptical of the claim that crossing cinnamon to black pastel would reduce the chance of the duck billed seen in both homozygous versions. Since the tendency seems to be part of both mutations and not related to inbreeding it didn't make sense to me that this would help. However, I got a report from a big breeder who is doing this cross and they indicate that it does help. I can't explain why it would but have to go with experience and figure it can't hurt so I'll eventually try the cross.