lol I go and do an update ( flash the bios and some driver updates) and reboot each time as requested) and then I install msi liveupdate4 ( for drivers and bios check to makes ure they all up to date) and the frignning pc crashed so bad I am attempting ot use windows 7 image restore I had done about 8 months ago. Which sucks cause right now my other hd not being listed ( that were I stored a lot of the main program files befoer it crashed) and it not allowing me to do an image restore correctly ( go figure) . I never had this problem with my vista Ult. I liked it enoug but the win 7 was a smaller foot print.on the harddrive. plus I not had any issues until today. ( which making it harder to do anythign since i not ate and got the shakes so bad I could make icing with out a mixer lol.. ( looks liek I got dt s or something I betting.