I finally got some Pied eggs. I purchased a trio of hets in 2005. I had one female lay in 08. 5 slugs, 1 good egg (hatched a 66% poss het male). The next year the other female laid. All slugs. I also purchased a visual female pied in 05. She is over 3000g now and a great feeder but as of today, not one good egg from her. I was about ready to give up on pieds. I traded for a visual male in 08 since I couldn't seem to make one myself. He has been a great breeder for me this year and one of my hets laid 6 perfect eggs finally. This has definitely been my toughest project, but Pieds were what got me back into ball after not having one for quite a few years so I can't complain too much. Now I just have to hope my hets are actually hets....Them turning out to be fakes would just be the ultimate kick in the nuts after all these years but hopefully I will be updating this thread in a few weeks with some pied pics. My male is just an awesome looking pied that has not lost his orange color like most seem to. I'll get a pic of him tonight.