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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    Hi,

    Just to say that post makes it perfectly clear you have never seen a well organized and planned live feeding.

    Please don't judge how most people do things from the horrible videos put on youtube by the worlds greatest dumbasses.


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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    Quote Originally Posted by wispurs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    How can you tell he is not like other snakes if you have never had another snake before?

    Well, I could be wrong but from what everyone says on this forum, they seem to think snakes are incapable of love, and that they do not lile being held, but only tolerate it..... Well my snake seems to LOVE me and WANT to be held by me...

    Everyone else seems to think that this is not possible, wich would lead me to believe their snake must not act like this.


    "So, how is dead feeding not "cruel"" ?

    Well for one thing we are not picking up innocent living mice and having to watch them be cornered, attacked and killed all while screaming for its life and dying a slow painful death. I do realize the food was once alive, but atleast it didnt die such a horrible painful death, and was killed instantly by co2 freezing.

    Would you rather die instantly.... or be bitten and squeezed to death while you screamed and pleaded for your life?
    You don't seem to listen at all.
    CO2 IS NOT INSTANT.
    It actually takes longer for the animal to die in a CO2 chamber than it does during the constriction process.
    Also, not all frozen mice and rats are killed with CO2.. some have their necks broken.. Especially the ones you get from Petco/Petsmart and not direct businesses. Just keep that in mind.

    Also, you guys are going by your "feelings" and what "seems" to be. And that's nice and all.. but we're going by science and real evidence based on the cranial structure of a reptile and what their brain is capable of understanding.
    Last edited by dr del; 05-27-2010 at 05:43 PM. Reason: fixing quote for you

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    Hi,

    You posted that video while I was writing mine.

    Mongeese do not eat cobras.

    As I said - youtube videos are far more likely to show you what not to do than anything else.


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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared



    didnt work ill give it another try

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    Quote Originally Posted by exotica0095 View Post
    so i guess my friend taking ball pythons and corn snakes and throwing them alive in with his red tail hawk to rip up is not cruel either ???


    what about those people in asia that put a cobra in with a mongoose.


    mongoose eat these snakes in the wild so according to u i guess its natural and okay for them to do this as well

    this is someones pet owl being fed a rat snake
    You're comparing raptors and venomous reptiles to constrictors.
    Not a proper comparison.

    And also, compared to what humans do to animals that you eat in your hamburgers every day on a large scale, is nothing compared to that.

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    what humnans do to the meat they eat is not relevant here we are talking about feeding live prey animals to other animals we keep


    feeding a hawk or an owl a live thrashing snake is the same as feeding a snake a live trashing rat

    if u dont agree you are a hypocrite

    both are sad and equally disturbing

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    You don't seem to listen at all.
    CO2 IS NOT INSTANT.
    It actually takes longer for the animal to die in a CO2 chamber than it does during the constriction process.
    Also, not all frozen mice and rats are killed with CO2.. some have their necks broken.. Especially the ones you get from Petco/Petsmart and not direct businesses. Just keep that in mind.

    Also, you guys are going by your "feelings" and what "seems" to be. And that's nice and all.. but we're going by science and real evidence based on the cranial structure of a reptile and what their brain is capable of understanding.
    Ok 1, i was writing mine when you posted about the co2 and

    " some have their necks broken.. Especially the ones you get from Petco/Petsmart. Just keep that in mind."

    WTF is wrong with you, why would you even tell me that? You just want to put a sick image of some guy going around to little baby mice and picking them up one by one snapping their little necks like dandelions while the rest just wait for their turn.
    you want to upset me because i think its cruel to feed a living animal to a snake in a cage where it has no chance.

    You are a mean spirited sick person and i hope your karma meets you very soon!

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    This remind anyone else of the chick who believed tubs were bad? Stupid trolls.

    It's nature! Snakes eat rodents. The end. If you can't deal with it, give the snake to someone who can before you starve it, roll over ontop of it and crush it in your sleep, or lose it.

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    RIP Cash and Honey. I'll never forget you.

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    Quote Originally Posted by cboocks View Post
    This remind anyone else of the chick who believed tubs were bad? Stupid trolls.

    It's nature! Snakes eat rodents. The end. If you can't deal with it, give the snake to someone who can before you starve it, roll over ontop of it and crush it in your sleep, or lose it.


    If you pay attention, He ISNT starving, he is INFACT eating.

    Stop being so vindictive just because i dont share YOUR views on MY snake

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    Re: adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

    wow cbrooks thanks for the mature intelligent post looks like you put a lot of thought into it, if you had been paying attention you would of realized our snake is feeding on f/t Calling other people names here while they are having a friendly debate shouldnt be allowed maybe cbrooks is not old enough to handle this convo.
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