Ryan this is my only post back to you because I know that you can go on all day over your beloved Ultramel/Crider Caramel debate.

We have been contacted by several big breeders and they seem to think that it is a Toffee. That was my first reaction to the pictures that I saw first. We have considered that it might be a Ultramel but after detailed scrutiny and analysis we thought no it is not. Truth be told no one including yourself knows what it is. The fun part for us is to breed her out and make babies and see if she is a Toffee or a Ultramel or God forbid something new. She is very exciting for us and we look forward to making more of her as she is just a stunning snake.

If you care to keep at it that is fine just respect us enough to know that we are happy with her and can't wait to find out what she is as we don't CLAIM to know anything about her genetics yet.

And for the record I think it would be awesome if she was a Codom or Dominant.

Thanks for reading.
Brock