New from africa !!!

[Brock Wagner]

Ryan this is my only post back to you because I know that you can go on all day over your beloved Ultramel/Crider Caramel debate.

We have been contacted by several big breeders and they seem to think that it is a Toffee. That was my first reaction to the pictures that I saw first. We have considered that it might be a Ultramel but after detailed scrutiny and analysis we thought no it is not. Truth be told no one including yourself knows what it is. The fun part for us is to breed her out and make babies and see if she is a Toffee or a Ultramel or God forbid something new. She is very exciting for us and we look forward to making more of her as she is just a stunning snake.

If you care to keep at it that is fine just respect us enough to know that we are happy with her and can't wait to find out what she is as we don't CLAIM to know anything about her genetics yet.

And for the record I think it would be awesome if she was a Codom or Dominant.

Thanks for reading.
Brock

[NatelovesBPs]

Ryan this is my only post back to you because I know that you can go on all day over your beloved Ultramel/Crider Caramel debate.

We have been contacted by several big breeders and they seem to think that it is a Toffee. That was my first reaction to the pictures that I saw first. We have considered that it might be a Ultramel but after detailed scrutiny and analysis we thought no it is not. Truth be told no one including yourself knows what it is. The fun part for us is to breed her out and make babies and see if she is a Toffee or a Ultramel or God forbid something new. She is very exciting for us and we look forward to making more of her as she is just a stunning snake.

If you care to keep at it that is fine just respect us enough to know that we are happy with her and can't wait to find out what she is as we don't CLAIM to know anything about her genetics yet.

And for the record I think it would be awesome if she was a Codom or Dominant.

Thanks for reading.
Brock

Well said, I would like to appologize if I came off to anyone as not being happy for your guys jealous or just trying to rain on someones parade,never my intent. I would be very happy too, shes awesome and I also think it would be sweet if she was CO-DOM... Imagine what the supers would look like!!! SMOKIN!!!!

[BPelizabeth]

She is just so beautiful!! Very soft look to her coloring!! Congrats!!

[yardy]

She is very very beautiful. There is a lot of validity in having different lines of what are essentially the same morphs (some pastels maybe or some of the ghosts) but until someone gets into DNA testing we will not really know for some considerable time if a beauty like this is a new genetic variation or just a visual variation on the same genetic mutation-testing by breeding out is a slow process... In any case she is absoultely stunning and I for one don't care if she has an already established mutation or a new one-I just wish she was in my house... If she doesn't prove out as a genetic mutation I would be perfectly happy to give her a home!