Lesser x Butter ?

[dr del]

Hi,

What was Amir's BEL maker called?

Could it be the Mocha?


dr del

[DLoc]

I've keep looking for actual evidence that they are the same (none I've found yet) and basically it says that butter/lesser/mojave all have the same allele however while the locus or address is the same for all of these it may or not be a different gene. Further more if you found a wild type het for any of these (as wild type means Normal Ball according to N.E.R.D. in genetics 101 and other sources) so breading a wild type to a codominant would still produce the morph. Only recessive traits produce a normal appearing ball that is het for the cross. Double het means just that, two seperate loci with het for one morph gene and one normal allele. So for example you can have a mojave spider as the both are codominant traits (het with a visual difference than a normal) that are both at different loci. The way you know they are at different loci is because if they were at the same loci it should look like a Super. (for the purpose of my post Super meaning two morph genes at a given loci. That while perhaps not the same gene for a trait still may be homozygous alleles.)
So mojave/lesser/butter it would look like mojave/lesser/butter as all you need is het for any one of those to see the trait, as it's a codominant mutation.
I found this at http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewBalls.htm
"Heterozygous for Mojave, a codominant trait. Yet another incomplete dominant mutation, with the homozygous form being a unique ghostly patterned variant of Blue-Eyed Leucistic known simply as the Super Mojave Ball. It should be noted that a large number of morphs have proven to be allelic to Mojave, including Russo, Lesser Platinum, and Butter, among others. Breeding any two of these types together will produce a 'Super' form, all of which are loosely termed 'Blue-Eyed Leucistics'."

[J.Vandegrift]

wow thanks guys.... yeah i think im going to go for another lesser.... although i really love the butters too... i might just get a pair of those too.... but your right i had not even thought of not being able to tell the snakes apart if i bred a butter and lesser

Just my opinion, but I would avoid Lesser x Lesser, Lesser x Butter, or Butter x Butter pairings due to the Bug eye issue. Lesser x Mojave is a better way to go IMO.

[dshem]

whats the bug eyed issue?

[BigBlue56]

whats the bug eyed issue?

Never heard of it either...

Now I am worried cause I had planned on getting a pair of lessers .