Pastel questions

[Liquid]

Ok so I have been looking at the resent posts on KS and Fauna and I am seeing a huge difference in the pastels that are posted. Some look like light colored normals while others look like they have been dipped in yellow dye and others look like they have been bleached and dipped in yellow dye. (pardon the crude terms!)

I have been to pet shops with my pastel female and I have the owners telling me she is a super pastel or a super lemon pastel. Then I see a super lemon pastel on KS that looks like her and another that looks like it has been bleached and dipped in yellow dye. The differences are extreme. So they cant both be super lemon pastels right?

Are there three levels of pastel? One that is a pastel, one a super and one is a super duper pastel lol!

I wanted to know what you guys thought would be a defining quality of a pastel or a super pastel and how would you determine the difference??

Thanks!

Mike

[Freakie_frog]

Pastels vary so greatly that with out pics it would be impossible to say yes this is a super or no this is simply a light normal. My local pet store use to tell me we get pastels in all the time..Then I asked them to show me one. They present me with a high yellow normal. It wasn't until I brought a pastel by their shop that they saw what a Pastel and super were suppose to look like.

Here's an example to go by Super and regular pastel


Here's a regular ole Lemon


and a Jungle pastel


Baby Jungles

[FatBoy]

The key to a good pastel, IMO, is how it holds it's color as it ages. Some supers can be tricky, you mainly look for a lot of blushing and faded head color. I have know people to mistake a really nice pastel for a low quality super and vice-virsa. Sometimes you have to breed them to find out. All I can say now is I want one of those "Super-Duper Pastels".

[waltah!]

Another example for you. Lighting and flash make a huge difference in pics you see as well.
Here's a young Pastel with Flash.

Same snake without flash.

[Liquid]

Freakie_frog
Thanks for the examples those are some awesome snakes!! What is the major difference between the super and the lemon?

FatBoy
If I get one I will let you know!

waltah!
Wow ok so that lighting / flash makes a ton of difference !

Thanks!

Mike

[Freakie_frog]

Freakie_frog
Thanks for the examples those are some awesome snakes!! What is the major difference between the super and the lemon?

Thanks!

Mike

Well the major different is that one is (the super) homozygous and the other (lemon) is heterozygous.

But I' have to say my Lemon looks way better than the supers at this point.. that may change as they age..