Help...Strange looking eggs! Pictures!

[RichsBallPythons]

If your girl kicked them out and did not coil them I would bet my left leg that they will never survive. I have never heard of an egg not volunteerily incubated by the mother being fertile, If anyone has I would love to hear of it.

Where you read that. i got 2 that were roll outs not in coils. One is on day 40 and other is day 33 and both have baby snakes moving in them.

That statement is false is so many ways.

[mxrider42]

To me it looks like the eggs are sweating out. The area of the eggs where they look wet is moisture escaping the eggs. Causing them to dimple in because they are loosing moisture. Get some liquid band aid and paint that area to keep the moisture in. Most of the moisture on the side of the tubs is coming from the water in the bottom of the incubator. I placed a tub of water in the bottom of the incubator last year to keep the humidity up. Moisture started forming on the side of the tubs and side of the incubator so I took the water out of the incubator. The moisture went away and the eggs hatched with no problems. The eggs might have hatched with the water tub in there but I didn't want to chance it.
Trey

[WingedWolfPsion]

I have a kick-out incubating right now. It was laid on the 25th, and it's plump, white, and looks fine.

Generally, a dead egg would be starting to cave at this point. This one has gained weight, so it's alive.

[BaierBalls]

The eggs are now is significantly drier vermiculite. Going to cut back on the moisture. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for every ones input.

[BaierBalls]

The eggs are now is significantly drier vermiculite. Going to cut back on the moisture. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for every ones input.

[alan1]

SAME WEIGHT vermiculite/water = approx 95% humidity

has always served me well...

[NatelovesBPs]

I lost my very first clutch last year to this same issue. My water to vermiculite mixture was almost perfect just a little too wet and it made all the eggs rot IN the future all of my eggs will be incubated on a grate so theres no risks. Also if any sort of bacteria or chemicals somehow get on the substrate the risks are even higher. Lastly if your bator is set up well you shouldnt have to worry about this but sometimes you can have hotspots in your sbstrate and unless you lift the eggs and visually inspect the bottom you can not tell they are being burned. They bottom will begin to become brown and by that time its too late.....

[Vilenica]

Where you read that. i got 2 that were roll outs not in coils. One is on day 40 and other is day 33 and both have baby snakes moving in them.

That statement is false is so many ways.

Thats cool and my quote did say I would love to hear about it. And your not the only one in this post incubating rollouts, and I dont blame you I do to. But everyone is still incubating and quick to say Im wrong so update me when the snakes have hatched. In my eyes they're was a reason your momma snake didnt adjust her coil to nurture those eggs. I think the main reason would be no heartbeat. Hey maybe theyre picky and would kick out irregular beating eggs? Third reason could be momma snake is stupid or is working on population control. Maybe come day 40 those are planned meals for nestbound momma. Im not sure but again (and Ive never talked to G.Graziani, or BB or even my buddy next to muddy waters) Ive never heard of good eggs not being covered by a brooding mom.

[RichsBallPythons]

Thats cool and my quote did say I would love to hear about it. And your not the only one in this post incubating rollouts, and I dont blame you I do to. But everyone is still incubating and quick to say Im wrong so update me when the snakes have hatched. In my eyes they're was a reason your momma snake didnt adjust her coil to nurture those eggs. I think the main reason would be no heartbeat. Hey maybe theyre picky and would kick out irregular beating eggs? Third reason could be momma snake is stupid or is working on population control. Maybe come day 40 those are planned meals for nestbound momma. Im not sure but again (and Ive never talked to G.Graziani, or BB or even my buddy next to muddy waters) Ive never heard of good eggs not being covered by a brooding mom.

Then you have MUCH to learn grasshopper.

I have had roll outs about Every year and they ALL have hatched out.

And for a female to kick a egg out because theres no heart beat is just non sense. Theres no heart or any beat of anykind in the eggs on the day their laid. It happens to all or most females sooner or later and they WILL incubate just fine if Showing veins.

[Vilenica]

Then you have MUCH to learn grasshopper.

I have had roll outs about Every year and they ALL have hatched out.

And for a female to kick a egg out because theres no heart beat is just non sense. Theres no heart or any beat of anykind in the eggs on the day their laid. It happens to all or most females sooner or later and they WILL incubate just fine if Showing veins.

There has got to be some reasoning for eggs not being incubated. It sounds like you have a lot of info and should start logging it down. Do you think you that your girls planned on eating those eggs that she was not going to incubate. Or do you think she planned on just letting it go with ambient temp/ taking turns with It etc. Maybe population control? DO you have enough info to make a hypothesis? This is good stuff, this is what I was looking for. Are the snakes that hatched out of the stray eggs healthy? healthy as hatchlings, etc.? In regards to the heartbeat thing If a ballpython can sense temperature differentiations of 1/200th degree I think they can sense a fertile embryo after it leaves its body for more air. Let me know what you think.