taking snakes outside...

[Kaorte]

Mykee, when I made my initial post regarding the information on the other forum, I had just skimmed through the threads.

Since then, I have read every single thread (and all the comments) that she posted and I do agree with nearly everything that was said. The probe placement thing stuck out to me but someone did correct them and all is well

No misinformation or gossip has infected this site. This is the only thread in which that forum was mentioned in any sort of negative way.

The OP actually got some of the same info that was eventually given to her on the other forum. I think part of the problem is the OP was posting in the wrong areas and part of the problem was that they were asking some loaded questions.

All is well I have been checking on that forum lately. It has a lot of great information but not quite as active as the ball pythons section of this forum.

[mommanessy247]

[shakes head] people these days, i swear!
i have not slandered ssnakess.com like mykee says i did. i was told here that i'd received some bad advice there & was just parroting that. ( except for the remark about mykee's snyde comment made to me a few days ago). other then that i have not sat here saying this & that about ssnakess.com. he sent me a private message saying he posted my comments & sent them to the admins on ssnakess.com & is trying to have me banned based on those so called comments.
whatever...that being said, i am sick & would much rather put my energy into getting well then dealing with the likes of mykee.

[mykee]

For fear of being seen as a troll or instigator, I'll cease and desist this round and round.

[Skiploder]

I'm insanely curious about a "homemade pen" that would be safe to leave a ball python (or any other snake for that matter) in outdoors. Please elaborate!

How about a greenhouse with an automated vent and fan?

Yes, we have one, and yes some of my snakes (not balls) get to use it several times during the year.

[BiggBaddWolf]

I never take mine out to "soak up the sun" as like the others have stated they are nocturnal and really have no need to!!!

[infernalis]

Seeing as ball pythons are nocturnal, they do not need to soak up any sun.

To be honest they really do not need to "get some sun".

Agreed.

i've been asked by another member to not post anymore questions on ssnakess.com. fine by me, this forum is more geared towards ball pythons anyways, plus the breeder i will be buying my snake from is here as well.

Sorry folks, I felt compelled to jump in here. (I moderate the "other forum"). mommanessy247 was NEVER asked to "not ask questions" I even encouraged continued participation in the thread.

We all tried to be informative and helpful, however when the answers were not what mommanessy247 wanted to hear, it went downhill from there.

All the same information is appearing here, I don't want to start a war, so I am going to back off now, but it is not appreciated the things that have been said by Mommanessy247.

[blackcrystal22]

Sorry folks, I felt compelled to jump in here. (I moderate the "other forum"). mommanessy247 was NEVER asked to "not ask questions" I even encouraged continued participation in the thread.

We all tried to be informative and helpful, however when the answers were not what mommanessy247 wanted to hear, it went downhill from there.

All the same information is appearing here, I don't want to start a war, so I am going to back off now, but it is not appreciated the things that have been said by Mommanessy247.

For fear of being seen as a troll or instigator, I'll cease and desist this round and round.

Kaorte: since I was called out my Momma (I'm the "difficult" member on the site she mentioned, though not by name); I felt it my duty to correct some of the lies being spewed about a forum that, though fallen on some hard times over the last few years, am still a contributing member of.
I personally have been around this hobby/business for a while, and call me old-school, ( and I undertand that many people do not agree with me on this (usually the lazy ones)) but I have always found that while forums are a great place to socialize and ask the more obscure or hard-to-find questions, that the onus remains on the keeper to do even a tiny little bit of research on their own. This is quite easily achieved by buying a book or two, or using their public library and picking up a book on the captive husbandry of ball pythons or visiting some great hobbyist and breeder sites and reading.
There is no substitute for a good knowledge-base.

As for the "outdoor faisco":
What happened was, much like here, when she was explained by a few experienced members (myself included) that an outdoor enclosure should not be her priimary focus, as it clearly had become at the time, and explained why, telling here that she should focus her attention on her INDOOR husbandry issues, (which, from experience, will abound when you use a fish cage to house a ball python), before cavorting outside with her hatchling. She proceeded to snub her nose at our suggestions.

Maybe we're a more jaded bunch up north, but when someone comes to a forum, hat in hand, asking questions, and when she doesn't get the answers that she WANTS, to poo poo on the advice given is bad internet manners.
This type of behavior is not condsuive to harbouring friendly, open dialog and knowledge-sharing.

As for bad advice regarding the above question that was also asked here, she posted her question in the General Discussion forum, and nowhere within the bodies of her posts did she mention once that she was inquiring about a ball python setup.
That said, there were a few members who recalled that she was, infact, referring to her August-arriving ball python, and was answered both informatively and appropriately.
My post:



Just wanted to clarify and clear up a few of the lies, misinformation and gossip that has infected this site.

You guys seem to be really offended because your forum was mentioned once in a bad light.
If we went around defending people unhappy with our forum, we'd have a whole new job!

This is not a competition, it's open non-profit internet resource.

What I'm saying is, if someone said something that you don't think is true about someone, don't bring it over to this site as if you are required to come to the ultimate defense of a terrible attack, talk about it privately through e-mails or personal messages. It is possible that the OP was asked to stop asking questions personally, but that's not a forums fault.

[infernalis]

It is possible that the OP was asked to stop asking questions personally, but that's not a forums fault.

Thank you!

[mykee]

As neither admin or a mod on the other site, I have no personal vested interest, just a loooong time member of ssnakess.com. For whatever reason,I felt the need to defend myself and my fellow posters because I thought it was a cruddy, immature thing for Momma to be doing disrespecting an entire site and it's members how she did.
It lacked class.
Please carry on, this is a great site and certainly worthy of more than some petty cross-forum infection.

[blackcrystal22]

As neither admin or a mod on the other site, I have no personal vested interest, just a loooong time member of ssnakess.com. For whatever reason,I felt the need to defend myself and my fellow posters because I thought it was a cruddy, immature thing for Momma to be doing disrespecting an entire site and it's members how she did.
It lacked class.
Please carry on, this is a great site and certainly worthy of more than some petty cross-forum infection.

Agreed.