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    Exclamation Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    The newer studies on plastics show that the smell emmited from them is toxic. See article below.

    I can bet the bins you use are not ventilated other than a few holes. No fans or anything. So all the gasses are being concentrated in the boxes you're using and it's even worse cause you have heating pads releasing the toxins even faster.

    BTW: I'm not talking down to the Tupperwere (See I can spell!) People here. I'm more concerned about the welfare of the creatures we all love. And the toxic gas thing just occured to me right now...So I Googled it and found out what is up about that stink we all smell from plastic stuff.

    So what do you think now?




    Toxic Plastic 3 - Turn Over the Bottle and Look!

    Guest author Miriam Ellis-Loraditch spends half of her time birding, and the other half acting as the CEO of Solas Web Design.

    I strive to keep my home environment as natural as I possibly can. We eschew as many big commercial products as possible, knowing that this is step one to avoiding many toxins. However, shopping 'natural' or shopping 'organic' is no guarantee that you've weeded out the bad stuff. For about a year now, I've been using Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat Shampoo, because I was impressed by its short list of ingredients and claims of using organic botanicals. No animal bi-products, no animal testing. I thought I was making a good choice.

    And then I learned about Toxic Plastic 3.

    You've probably heard of Toxic plastic 3 by its other name, PVC, or Vinyl. PVC (Polyvinyl chloride) is considered by many experts to be the most dangerous, carcinogenic plastic ever created by man. It cannot be recycled. It will sit in our landfills until kingdom come, emitting carcinogenic chemicals into the air, water and soil. And despite the studies showing the incredible toxicity of this substance, the FDA approves it for use in the packaging of our food, our health care products, and our medicines.

    Where will you find Toxic Plastic 3 in your home?
    Turn over any plastic container you have around the house. If you see a '3' or a 'V' stamped into the plastic, you are holding PVC in your hand. As you've guessed, I found that ominous '3' on the bottom of my organic Giovanni shampoo. You will find it on products manufactured by Johnson & Johnson, and Sesame Street bath products. Emeril's Salad Dressing, ACT fluoride rinse, and a host of other health and food items are packaged in this plastic. The carcinogens leach into the products they contain, resulting in your eating PVC and lathering it into your hair, teeth and skin.

    Children's toys feature rampant use of PVC. A child chewing on his rubber ducky in the bath is being exposed to levels of cancer-causing chemicals which have led to such items being banned in many European countries. Yet, here in the U.S., you will not even be told that the toys your children play with, the shower curtain in your bathroom, or the pipes under your house contain PVC. PVC causes cancer and kidney damage, and when burned (as in the case of a kitchen fire or house fire) it results in long term respiratory damage.

    Greenpeace has written some excellent articles regarding finding alternatives to PVC for your home, and more than 50 environmental groups in the U.S. are currently petitioning numerous stores to stop selling vinyl-containing products. Unfortunately, as with so many consumer product hazards, PVC vinyl continues to receive scant media attention, despite its well-documented harmfulness.

    Make the first step toward ridding your home of PVC
    Look for the '3' or the 'V' on any plastic or vinyl product in your house. PVC products are often somewhat rubbery and flexible, but not always. PVC gives off a distinct chemical smell (you know, that new shower curtain/new car smell). What you are smelling is toxic gas being released when you open up a new PVC-containing home product. Even if you don't find a '3' or a 'V', but are concerned that an item in your home might contain PVC, please contact the manufacturer to ask. Because our government continues to authorize the use of toxic PVC in the manufacture of homes, cars and products, you are unlikely to be able to completely avoid exposure to it, but you certainly don't need to have it in your shampoo or in the toys your children are playing with. Your first step is to dispose of offending items, and when buying plastic is essential, to choose an alternatively numbered substance. If you'd like to do more, visit Greenpeace for further information.

    •For further reading, the Grassroots Recycling network provides access to several extensive reports on PVC toxicity and recycling.

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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    You still mis-spelled it! LOL TupperWARE.

    In any case - why does it seem to be your mission here to extol the evil-ness of tubs? Snakes have been kept in tubs for many, many years, collectively longer than most of us have been alive with no ill effects.

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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    Great news! No "3's" or "V's" on the bottom of my Sterilite tubs!

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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    Spell Check?

    Plastic is toxic when melted and fumes inhaled. I dont believe that article one bit as i dont see plastic being approved to be sold yet it emits Toxins.

    Your grasping at straws now and is getting very childish as you wont convince anyone that tubs are bad. I have snakes 4-8 years old been in tubs all their lives and never had problems or will they ever from being in tubs.

    Tanks=FISH not for snakes but are most commonly used due to petstores wanting to make MORE money off your purchase.

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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    I don't keep my snakes in a Johnson&Johnson bottle so I guess I'm all set.
    --Walt

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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    Everybody has to die someway.


    Luckily I eat to much cheese to worry about PVC
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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    EVERYTHING CAUSES CANCER, in one way or another.... its all just hyped up... lead wasnt that bad

    but my snake will be staying in his tupperwere container for the rest of his life
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    and my other animals 1.1 dogs


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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsinoe View Post
    The newer studies on plastics show that the smell emmited from them is toxic. See article below.

    I can bet the bins you use are not ventilated other than a few holes. No fans or anything. So all the gasses are being concentrated in the boxes you're using and it's even worse cause you have heating pads releasing the toxins even faster.

    BTW: I'm not talking down to the Tupperwere (See I can spell!) People here. I'm more concerned about the welfare of the creatures we all love. And the toxic gas thing just occured to me right now...So I Googled it and found out what is up about that stink we all smell from plastic stuff.

    So what do you think now?



    Toxic Plastic 3 - Turn Over the Bottle and Look!

    Guest author Miriam Ellis-Loraditch spends half of her time birding, and the other half acting as the CEO of Solas Web Design.

    I strive to keep my home environment as natural as I possibly can. We eschew as many big commercial products as possible, knowing that this is step one to avoiding many toxins. However, shopping 'natural' or shopping 'organic' is no guarantee that you've weeded out the bad stuff. For about a year now, I've been using Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat Shampoo, because I was impressed by its short list of ingredients and claims of using organic botanicals. No animal bi-products, no animal testing. I thought I was making a good choice.

    And then I learned about Toxic Plastic 3.

    You've probably heard of Toxic plastic 3 by its other name, PVC, or Vinyl. PVC (Polyvinyl chloride) is considered by many experts to be the most dangerous, carcinogenic plastic ever created by man. It cannot be recycled. It will sit in our landfills until kingdom come, emitting carcinogenic chemicals into the air, water and soil. And despite the studies showing the incredible toxicity of this substance, the FDA approves it for use in the packaging of our food, our health care products, and our medicines.

    Where will you find Toxic Plastic 3 in your home?
    Turn over any plastic container you have around the house. If you see a '3' or a 'V' stamped into the plastic, you are holding PVC in your hand. As you've guessed, I found that ominous '3' on the bottom of my organic Giovanni shampoo. You will find it on products manufactured by Johnson & Johnson, and Sesame Street bath products. Emeril's Salad Dressing, ACT fluoride rinse, and a host of other health and food items are packaged in this plastic. The carcinogens leach into the products they contain, resulting in your eating PVC and lathering it into your hair, teeth and skin.

    Children's toys feature rampant use of PVC. A child chewing on his rubber ducky in the bath is being exposed to levels of cancer-causing chemicals which have led to such items being banned in many European countries. Yet, here in the U.S., you will not even be told that the toys your children play with, the shower curtain in your bathroom, or the pipes under your house contain PVC. PVC causes cancer and kidney damage, and when burned (as in the case of a kitchen fire or house fire) it results in long term respiratory damage.

    Greenpeace has written some excellent articles regarding finding alternatives to PVC for your home, and more than 50 environmental groups in the U.S. are currently petitioning numerous stores to stop selling vinyl-containing products. Unfortunately, as with so many consumer product hazards, PVC vinyl continues to receive scant media attention, despite its well-documented harmfulness.

    Make the first step toward ridding your home of PVC
    Look for the '3' or the 'V' on any plastic or vinyl product in your house. PVC products are often somewhat rubbery and flexible, but not always. PVC gives off a distinct chemical smell (you know, that new shower curtain/new car smell). What you are smelling is toxic gas being released when you open up a new PVC-containing home product. Even if you don't find a '3' or a 'V', but are concerned that an item in your home might contain PVC, please contact the manufacturer to ask. Because our government continues to authorize the use of toxic PVC in the manufacture of homes, cars and products, you are unlikely to be able to completely avoid exposure to it, but you certainly don't need to have it in your shampoo or in the toys your children are playing with. Your first step is to dispose of offending items, and when buying plastic is essential, to choose an alternatively numbered substance. If you'd like to do more, visit Greenpeace for further information.

    •For further reading, the Grassroots Recycling network provides access to several extensive reports on PVC toxicity and recycling.
    i now think that seeing that most people use sterilite or like tubs that our snakes are fine seeing that they are NOT made from pvc.

    maybe you should do a little bit more research there

    *edit*

    seems the same platic the tubs are made from can be found everywhere from hospitals to baby diapers and can be recycled as a #5 plastic

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypropylene
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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    Most sterile tubs are do not have "3" or "V" on them, if you find one that does I'll be amazed!

    But if you want I can google search glass aquariums and come up with a bogus article about how it's magically bad for people and animals too...You can find all sorts of false info on the Internet.

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    Re: Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

    Hi,

    Maybe I missed it but can I ask for links to a respected and peer reviewed scientific journal?

    The fact someone likes birds and can run a web design company is nice - but it's not really an equivalency to a degree in chemistry and a thorough and proper research period.

    I know offgassing exists for certin types of plastic ( and there are many different types by the way ) - but I also know the FDA has a habit of looking into these things.

    If you really want a scary read look up the carcinogenic properties of soya - and people eat that.


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    Last edited by dr del; 04-17-2010 at 09:56 PM. Reason: asked for the source instead of the links
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