I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

[Freakie_frog]

As hyper inflation kicks in and the dollar continues to shrink you wont be able to give them away.

I'll take every single one you want to give away if it gets to that point..

[Dave763]

I think if you could not afford to feed them you would not feel that way....Ed don't be dumb.

[blackcrystal22]

If I had 20k right now I'd open an account and start investing in the stock market. Put some of that into ball's if you don't mind the risk of not getting your money back. My sig say's it all, its all about the animals for me, its my belief that the days of someone making a living off of this hobby are over. Now is there money to be made yeah but not enough to justify a 20k investment unless you are getting the next hot morph that everybody wants. This economy sucks.

My post might be unpopular but I've invested about 7k and have recouped half my money in 2 breeding season's but I also count my holdbacks to drop my number. If I do not make another dollar I will still be happy ask yourself that same question. I love ball pythons

Stock market is just as big of a game if not more-so than ball python investment!

Do yourself a favor and put that 20K into gold or silver. Ball python prices are falling faster than you might imagine.
Any thought of ball pythons as an investment is not a wise idea, although I'm sure many breeders would have you believe otherwise.

Look at what the prices were, say 3 years ago to where they are today...it's sick, and I see no sign that prices have stabilized.

As hyper inflation kicks in and the dollar continues to shrink you wont be able to give them away.

Well, see.. that 20K isn't his to spend. He's getting it from an investor for an established business, so there isn't really any reason he should not get these animals if he has the husbandry, feeding, facility, and reputation taken care of.


Personally, I would look at some of the combinations you could make with the current ball pythons you have, and get a couple good animals with Recessive and Co-dominant traits mixed into single individuals. You'll have good clutches and lots of traits to work with and potentially even create something new! I would not buy a recessive morph that costs 18,000 that has no other genes. Any revenue and profit would be limited to breeders and it would be too localized.

Just my opinion.

[ralphdp21]

Stock market is just as big of a game if not more-so than ball python investment!



Well, see.. that 20K isn't his to spend. He's getting it from an investor for an established business, so there isn't really any reason he should not get these animals if he has the husbandry, feeding, facility, and reputation taken care of.


Personally, I would look at some of the combinations you could make with the current ball pythons you have, and get a couple good animals with Recessive and Co-dominant traits mixed into single individuals. You'll have good clutches and lots of traits to work with and potentially even create something new! I would not buy a recessive morph that costs 18,000 that has no other genes. Any revenue and profit would be limited to breeders and it would be too localized.

Just my opinion.



From what he said, I'm taking a gander that the breeder is trusting him to make the decision and to do the research on the best morphs to purchase because he hasn't worked with very many ball python morphs in the past.

This guy seems more of a lizard and turtle breeder who is looking into ball pythons.

Just how I interpreted it.

Thank you BLACKCRYSTAL finally some one that fully understands. Exactly how you described it, is my situation. I am simply looking for information on what morphs to work on. What is hot in the market. What are people talking about what are they not talking about.

I am doing my own research but I would like to hear what other people have to say.

Based on my current understanding Clowns, Paintballs, triple / quad co-doms / and supers are whats hot. We have a few nice ball bythons already but I need to do research on the elite morphs.

[Emilio]

Stock market is just as big of a game if not more-so than ball python investment!



Well, see.. that 20K isn't his to spend. He's getting it from an investor for an established business, so there isn't really any reason he should not get these animals if he has the husbandry, feeding, facility, and reputation taken care of.


Personally, I would look at some of the combinations you could make with the current ball pythons you have, and get a couple good animals with Recessive and Co-dominant traits mixed into single individuals. You'll have good clutches and lots of traits to work with and potentially even create something new! I would not buy a recessive morph that costs 18,000 that has no other genes. Any revenue and profit would be limited to breeders and it would be too localized.

Just my opinion.

The stock market is all about knowledge and putting in some work to be successful. Same with ball pythons if you don't know squat about them or how to properly take care and breed them etc your stuck. Come on now let's be honest here how much do you think a pied will be in 5 yrs???? Come on. Now take a good guess? I absolutely love my hobby and not going against it but the future is just like the corn snake market.

[NatelovesBPs]

The stock market is all about knowledge and putting in some work to be successful. Same with ball pythons if you don't know squat about them or how to properly take care and breed them etc your stuck. Come on now let's be honest here how much do you think a pied will be in 5 yrs???? Come on. Now take a good guess? I absolutely love my hobby and not going against it but the future is just like the corn snake market.

Corn snake market?! I dont think thats going to be an issue any time soon... Its all about how you play your cards and push yourself, just like any other buisness. It may be unpredictable but still profitable, at very least a hobby that can easily pay for itself if done right. All that being said even if i start making decent money off my hobby I will never quit my job hoping to make it my living, just an extra source. Ohh and last but not least animal hoarders dont make any money.

[Emilio]

Corn snake market?! I dont think thats going to be an issue any time soon... Its all about how you play your cards and push yourself, just like any other buisness. It may be unpredictable but still profitable, at very least a hobby that can easily pay for itself if done right. All that being said even if i start making decent money off my hobby I will never quit my job hoping to make it my living, just an extra source. Ohh and last but not least animal hoarders dont make any money.

I agree with most everything you just posted.

[Big Gunns]

The stock market is all about knowledge and putting in some work to be successful. Same with ball pythons if you don't know squat about them or how to properly take care and breed them etc your stuck. Come on now let's be honest here how much do you think a pied will be in 5 yrs???? Come on. Now take a good guess? I absolutely love my hobby and not going against it but the future is just like the corn snake market.

BG doesn't think a Pied will be worth 1/3 of what it's worth now, but BG will bet you this. If you bought a Pied male now and some females to breed it to, you could easily make ten times your money in 5 years if you have any clue what you're doing. Pieds are one of the best investments in the game. BG would break it down for yah, but he's in one of his lazy moods.

There is no way you can possibly make that same claim with the "stock market". Well...you can make it, but BG will call you a con artist and a liar.

[WesleyTF]

BG doesn't think a Pied will be worth 1/3 of what it's worth now, but BG will bet you this. If you bought a Pied male now and some females to breed it to, you could easily make ten times your money in 5 years if you have any clue what you're doing. Pieds are one of the best investments in the game. BG would break it down for yah, but he's in one of his lazy moods.

There is no way you can possibly make that same claim with the "stock market". Well...you can make it, but BG will call you a con artist and a liar.

bingo on the pieds. you've GOT to have some pieds going if you want consistent $ coming in. I'm amazed at how well they've held up $ wise.

[TessadasExotics]

bingo on the pieds. you've GOT to have some pieds going if you want consistent $ coming in. I'm amazed at how well they've held up $ wise.

Held up money wise? It wasn't that long ago that they were selling for 30k and up! I don't think that they have held up at all. Now they are selling 700 to 2k. That's in what about 5 years? That's a considerable drop. Too many people that are out there for a quick buck that are willing to slash prices to get that sell. They ruin it for every one because they don't care.