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    Re: I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

    IMO, spending 20k is not a good idea, unless you have been around for a while and have breeding down to the last tee. I spent 11k on snakes last year, and had 3k+ snakes that wouldnt breed, no matter what I did. VERY fustrating.

    Do you have any experiance with breeding? Enough to know that if you spend that chunk of money, your confident that you will be able to bring that back in and then some? A ball python is not an animal that you can know will breed every year, what if you buy that $8000 snake, and then find out he wont breed for two years? By then his price may be $2000.

    Im just saying get your feet wet, before you dive in.

    And dont take the standing offer, try to get the lowest price you can!
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    Come here little guy. You're awfully cute and fluffy but unfortunately for you, you're made of meat

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    Re: I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    IMO, spending 20k is not a good idea, unless you have been around for a while and have breeding down to the last tee. I spent 11k on snakes last year, and had 3k+ snakes that wouldnt breed, no matter what I did. VERY fustrating.

    Do you have any experiance with breeding? Enough to know that if you spend that chunk of money, your confident that you will be able to bring that back in and then some? A ball python is not an animal that you can know will breed every year, what if you buy that $8000 snake, and then find out he wont breed for two years? By then his price may be $2000.

    Im just saying get your feet wet, before you dive in.

    And dont take the standing offer, try to get the lowest price you can!

    I leaped-in head first without a life preserver a few few years back -- with a MUCH MORE than 20k. I has turned out fine for me thus far.
    However, along the lines of what Matt is saying above -- until you breed and reproduce the snakes you purchased -- you are just a collector. Nothing wrong with collecting -- but it will not realize ANY return on you investment. In fact it will ONLY cost money with caging, food etc.

    I would not know what to tell you to buy?? Too many choices of morphs and price-ranges. I am sure many will have suggestions about what to get -- just not me. Best of luck with your quest!!!
    Bill Buchman

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    Re: I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

    You've gotten some good advice and people have different thoughts so soak it all in. I don't know how much experience you have, if any, in breeding ball pythons so advice is difficult since we all are in different situations. If you are pretty new to this I would suggest you consider spreading the investment over a few years. For example, a nice start may be a good rack system and equipment and maybe some combo females. Then spend on more animals in subsequent years. I think you will learn along the way and possibly avoid some mistakes that you would of made if you spent all your money up front. Someone on this forum once said something like "to run a business you have to think of it like a business and not like a hobby". It is good advice...

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    Re: I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

    All the best to you man, and way to dive in and not be ruled by fear, do the math, and listen to the advice... if you find its good... pull the trigger.

    No risk, no gain.

    You're best advice will likely come from a breeder who has been where you are and has been successful. (there are many) Definitely collect some advice and remember, the best stuff is not usually on KS... Feel free to call here if you like. I wish you all the best.

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    Re: I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

    Thank you all for your feedback. Just to give you all a better idea of where I stand. I am currently in business with a very well known breeder from Miami. His name is out there, he has a site, he has lots of expensive reptiles (leopard geckos, bearded dragons, turtles, african fat tail geckos) and he knows what he is doing. I don't want to give you his name yet. I am simply head of his IT/Research division.

    I found an investor who is interested in putting in $20k towards our business and the only thing that we are looking for are ball pythons. We have all the husbandry and feeding taken care of, we even already have some very nice ball pythons that are currently breeding.

    I'm just not sure of what morphs I should get. I was told by some to try and make a new morph, and others said just to get a powerhouse male and some real nice females. I like the sound of having a few females and one powerhouse male. This is where my question comes into play.

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    Re: I have $20k to spend and I need help!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphdp21 View Post
    Thank you all for your feedback. Just to give you all a better idea of where I stand. I am currently in business with a very well known breeder from Miami. His name is out there, he has a site, he has lots of expensive reptiles (leopard geckos, bearded dragons, turtles, african fat tail geckos) and he knows what he is doing. I don't want to give you his name yet. I am simply head of his IT/Research division.

    I found an investor who is interested in putting in $20k towards our business and the only thing that we are looking for are ball pythons. We have all the husbandry and feeding taken care of, we even already have some very nice ball pythons that are currently breeding.

    I'm just not sure of what morphs I should get. I was told by some to try and make a new morph, and others said just to get a powerhouse male and some real nice females. I like the sound of having a few females and one powerhouse male. This is where my question comes into play.
    Why don't you ask him what he recommends you invest in then?

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