what i love is when i went to the white plains show spoke to a few breeders that had some amazing snakes. I think one was a killer blast and another was i forget the name but fred kick produced it. They both just took the snakes out and gave them to me to handle and it was awesome being able to handle them and then eventually have them in my collection. Also got my beautiful spider from Fred. Her color is like no other so im excited to hit her with a super pastel next year.