Ok, in 15qt. With enough paper to burn an hour. Lol actualy I was dumb at first. Omg, fitting the snakes in tubs is awful. So when I got into tubs I got 28 &. 32qts. Today I bought 3 15qt. I moves miss. Albino and will move the others if I have problems. I truely belive my normal just is being hard cause I'm trying to switch to rat pups. The pastel in the 28qt has ate every meal is happy.