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    Carpet Localities and Morphs

    Hey there,
    I've been really confused about what the different morphs and localities for carpet pythons are.

    What are the different phases and colors that are associated with each locality or morph?

    Thanks!
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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    No one?

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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    there are several morphs (like most popular snakes these days)... i won't go into those.

    the localities you are likely referring to are not localities at all. they are subspecies and species. in the US, the following are going to be your most common species and subspecies:
    jungle carpet - morelia spilota cheynei
    coastal carpet - morelia spilota mcdowelli
    bredli (centralian) carpet - morelia bredli (notice it's a different species)
    irian jaya carpet - morelia spilota harrisoni
    diamond python - morelia spilota
    and, of course, good ol mutt carpets morelia spilota ssp

    does that clear it up?

    here are some morphs............

    granite
    albino
    jaguar
    tiger (striped)
    zebra
    caramel

    there are more, proven and unproven.........
    Colin Vestrand

    long time keeper and breeder of carpet pythons and other snakes...

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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    Thank you very much!

    Do all of the different species and subspecies have their own set of morphs to them??

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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    Not all do, Blackcrystal - though the existing morphs have been crossed into other subspecies, resulting in some very beautiful mutt carpets.

    The "granite" carpet is a recessive morph of the Irian Jaya subspecies.

    The "zebra" is a codominant morph of the Jungle carpet - super is a patternless yellow snake.

    The albino is a recessive morph of, IIRC, the Darwin carpet.

    The "jaguar", which exhibits many of the same characteristics of the "spider" ball python, is a codominant morph of the Coastal carpet. Super is a leucistic carpet, but to date none have survived that I'm aware of. It's probably been crossed into more of the other subspecies than all the others combined. (Then again, there aren't that many albinos around for folks to cross - just wait'll they get a chance!)

    "Tiger", I _think_ is a Coastal morph - but I could be wrong.

    "Caramel" - I think I've seen a photo of one . . .

    HTH

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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    Edit: wow, apparently I took a long time writing this post - got beaten to the punch by BrucenBruce...

    Yes, and people have mixed the morphs by mixing subspecies.

    Granite is Irian Jaya (recessive)
    Albino is Darwin (recessive)
    Jaguar is Coastal (codominant, fatal super [leucistic] - no one has hatched a live super jag)
    Tiger is Coastal (I don't recall whether it's dom, co-dom, or recessive)
    Zebra is Jungle (co-dom, super is a yellow snake)
    Caramel is Coastal (IIRC)

    Granite Jags are an IJ/coastal cross, for example. Some of the single-morph subspecies crosses are stunning too. 75% IJ jags, for example, are very pretty IMO, as are diamond jungle jags. That said, if you look into getting a jag, be aware that they have similar wobble/spin issues to spider ball pythons. It doesn't seem to prevent them from living otherwise healthy lives, but it's something you should know before getting into them.
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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    I did read somewhere that one of the super Jags that hatched was paradox'd and it did survive for around three months then after that it passed.....

    It appears to be a fatal gene similar to the super woma ball.
    1.0 Lesser Platinum 0.1 Mystery Morph 0.1 Enchi 1.1 Yellow Belly
    1.0 08 Black Pastel 66% Poss Het Pied 0.1 09 Lemon Pastel
    2.0 09 Spider Ball 0.1 08 Pinstripe 0.0.1 09 Green Tree Python
    1.0 High Contrast Albino 1.0 Orange Ghost 66% pos het pied
    1.0 Fires 1.1 CH Granites 1.0 Woma Ball 2.4 Normals/dinkers
    0.1 Suriname Red Tails 0.0.1 Madagascan Giant Day Gecko
    0.1 08 Irian Jaya Carpet 0.0.1 Pac Man Frog 1.0 Jungle Raptor Leopard Gecko 1.0 Blizzard Leopard Gecko 0.1 Super Snow Patternless Albino Leopard Gecko 0.1 Blazing Blizzard 0.1 Jungle Leopard Gecko 0.1 Snow Blizzard


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    Re: Carpet Localities and Morphs

    There was/is a video floating around that showed the super/leucistic/with paradox markings and one could see it was not in good shape upon hatching..
    Had poor motion to it,be surpised if it lasted very long..Previous posters did a fine job covering all the bases...

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