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Panda pied
looking for an all white BP then i saw the panda pied ball python and i fell in love! how can i get my hands on one of these beautiful snakes
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Re: Panda pied
I don't actually think there is any for sale, or if they are, extremely expensive.
It's a super cinnamon piebald. There are other trying to make them I'm sure, but I don't see any being produced until a year or three from now, and when they are....again, you're looking at a very high price range.
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Re: Panda pied
Pay a whole lot of money or buy the ingredients. With a whole lot of good luck, you might luck up.
Cinnamon Pastel/ Black Pastel and a piebald. Produce hets and breed them back together.
Premises:
Dangerous animals shall be banned. 
Ball Pythons are not dangerous. 
Conclusion:
Therefore, Ball Pythons shall not be banned. 
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Re: Panda pied
elaborate on a whole lot of money
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Re: Panda pied
what do the ingrediants do?? i have never bred before, ill be breeding her hopefully at the end of this year,(octoberish)
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Re: Panda pied
A whole lot of money meaning more than a coral glow ($20,000) since their are none for sale, the price is not something I can guess at, but it's going to be more than you could probably afford.
There are a lot of FAQ's on breeding, use google.
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Re: Panda pied
To my knowledge, only 1 has ever been produced. I believe it was by Outback, they hatched it and sold it to Ballroom South.
Outback has a Super Black Pastel for sale right now:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...r+black+pastel
That's a key ingredient. Breed that Super Black Pastel (homozygous for the co-dom Black Pastel gene) to a Pied (homozygous for the recessive piebald gene), and you produce some Black Pastel (co-dom) heterozygous for Piebald (1 pied gene carrier, visually normal or black pastel). Breed the black pastel het pieds together or to a pied, and I believe you have something like a 1/16 chance of producing a Panda Pied.
For the Panda Pied, speaking in allele's, you've got:
Spot 1: the Recessive Piebald Gene: 1 pied gene from each animal equals two pied genes and the visual phenotype.
Spot 2: the co-dom Cinny gene: 1 cinny gene from each animal get's you to the super form, the super cinny, or super black pastel.
Hope that helps, hope I am right!
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Re: Panda pied
Actually Outback sold their Super Black Pastel
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Re: Panda pied
From what I know, only one has been produced and it is very difficult to get this out of your clutch. Last time I saw the Panda Pied was selling for 18K-20K. Very expensive but beautiful. I wish it had more black than white though. Hopefully someone makes that hahaha.
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