BP gets out of everything - need new cage idea

[Elise.m]

I love how everybody thinks they know better than you. The first few times she got out it was due to my negligence. Don't even start on me about that; it's been discussed already. So the next time I checked the locks a hundred times before turning off the light and calling it a day. Next morning she was out. THAT is when I knew the locks couldn't hold her. Not before. Don't be so judgemental. :/

Maybe you shouldn't take offense to everything said. I simply stated what I would do, and asked why you hadn't done that. Maybe a simple "I hadn't gotten around to it yet" would have sufficed instead of you jumping the gun and assuming that I think I'm better than you.

[PurplePython]

If you know that this BP is persistent on getting out, and you know that the locks don't work, why haven't you replaced them already?

If it were me, the moment I found out that the locks didn't work I would have been on my way to the hardware store to get new ones and buy back ups.

lol

that made me laugh

[PurplePython]

i checked out your pictures of your enclosures, howcome they dont have any substrate? Are they basically on tile? I don't know how confortable that can be to live on day after day for a BP.

[Mindibun]

This is the internet. Things meant to sound one way can come off another. Apparently I misjudged your post, so I'm sorry for "jumping" you. The only reason I am so quick to defend myself is because many members here are quick to berate when they think someone is less than perfect in their husbandry. I have taken a lot of nonesense over this whole situation, and I am tired of it. It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made ... I just happened to have made it 4 or 5 times. XD

I'm sorry if I seemed harsh. I am not a harsh person.

[Mindibun]

i checked out your pictures of your enclosures, howcome they dont have any substrate? Are they basically on tile? I don't know how confortable that can be to live on day after day for a BP.

Raven has substrate. Adalae does not because she doesn't like it. She won't sit on it. Instead, she plays "dont touch the hot lava" and climbs on the edge of her water bowl, hides, rocks, etc. to avoid the dirt. So she just has paper. she also doesn't have any decor in her cage because she shoves it all to one side and gets angry over it. I swear, if you just stuck her in a big box with some tree branches, that'd be all she wants. She doesn't even use her hides properly - she sits on top of them. She's a very frustrating snake!

[Elise.m]

This is the internet. Things meant to sound one way can come off another. Apparently I misjudged your post, so I'm sorry for "jumping" you. The only reason I am so quick to defend myself is because many members here are quick to berate when they think someone is less than perfect in their husbandry. I have taken a lot of nonesense over this whole situation, and I am tired of it. It was an honest mistake that anyone could have made ... I just happened to have made it 4 or 5 times. XD

I'm sorry if I seemed harsh. I am not a harsh person.

No worries It is the internet, it tough to judge how a person is trying to say something through text. I often have to read things multiple times just to make sure I'm reading it the right way.

I'm also sorry if I came off harsh. If I don't have anything nice to say, I don't say it... Or type it.

[PurplePython]

Raven has substrate. Adalae does not because she doesn't like it. She won't sit on it. Instead, she plays "dont touch the hot lava" and climbs on the edge of her water bowl, hides, rocks, etc. to avoid the dirt. So she just has paper. she also doesn't have any decor in her cage because she shoves it all to one side and gets angry over it. I swear, if you just stuck her in a big box with some tree branches, that'd be all she wants. She doesn't even use her hides properly - she sits on top of them. She's a very frustrating snake!

lol wow i have never heard of a snake pushing everything aside like that. that would be very frustrating. my snake is somewhat weird when it comes to his hides also. Sometimes he will be in one of his two main hides, but for some reason every now and then he will either just lay in the middle of this hollowed out log, or he will just hide behind all of my fake plants, lol. Its like he creates his own hiding spots every once in awhile.

[tweets_4611]

I have a big girl that likes to roam. To make sure she has the space she wants (I keep my BPs in a rack) I get her out when I see her cruising her tub.

On the note of her pushing everything around. One of my boys does that. I have newspaper with aspen on top of it (the newspaper is just to make my life easier at cleaning) and the second I put new bedding in his tub he is out shoving it all around. You can glace at the rack and know which tub he is in b/c everything is shoved to one side, the newspaper balled up almost in places, and the aspen in a pile. He moves his water bowl and hide, then sleeps between the layers of newspaper half the time. Any time I fix it, he does it again. He's my lil interior decorator.

However, I've found that that is simply how he likes it. He does fine with everything all jacked up, so I leave it. Have you tried giving her bedding she can really move around and giving her time to get used to it? She may just be one that likes to redecorate her cage...

Good luck whatever you decide. I know you may feel bad about keeping such an active snake in a cage, but since she is much safer there, I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Just give her what "exploring" time you can when you can get her out, and enjoy knowing she is safe when you can't. ^_^

[p3titexburial]

Hrm, snakes have really good memory (which was really surprising to my parents)--they just need to get out once and that's the route they will try first until that fails. I would stay with her for a day/night/whenever she gets active (or set up a camera if you don't have that kind of patience) and figure out exactly HOW she's getting out. She might be doing something you would have never imagined her to do.

The solution might be simple, then again it might not be.

I think your set-up is amazing, if I had that kind of dough to get this style (and didn't move around from school to home so much) I totally would. But it seems to me she has some sort of leverage against it to pop it open, or can bend a portion of it to get out.

My biggest fear would be that you only semi-fix the problem and she gets stuck trying the same way she got out before so I'd watch her until I find out how she's doing it.

(I once sat up until 4 in the morning trying to figure out how my female was escaping

it was not a good day after.

=_=;;;

but on the plus side ever since I fixed it she hasn't escaped again.)

[Kaorte]

Everything you have described so far sounds like a stressed snake.

Perhaps you could try filling the enclosure with crumpled paper to simulate a larger amount of "cover"? Then over time, start removing more and more of the paper until there is none left.

I would give substrate another try. She might not like it at first but she should get used to it after a few weeks. Perhaps she doesn't use her hides because she doesn't like the tile.

I know your husbandry is spot on but some snakes are a little more picky when it comes to security.

I don't know where you would find them but I have locks on my boaphile cage that work perfectly. maybe you could check out their website so you can see what they look like and try to find something similair.

Good luck! She does seem like a handful