All monitors have "venom" in their saliva?

[stuck]

thanks for posting the links skiploder. very interesting stuff on them.

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[MTovar]

searching Dr. Bryon Fry AND venom will do it.

Ive had so many beardies, this was a fun article to read

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/s...05/1506321.htm

"For instance little bearded dragon lizards that cruise around the suburbs have classic rattlesnake venom, scientists report online today in the journal Nature.

But the venom is not dangerous to humans, says Dr Bryan Fry from the University of Melbourne's Australian Venom Research Unit, who led the international research team".

[allergenic]

So yesterday I was talking to a friend while handling this baby water monitor and he said that all monitors do have a little venom in their saliva.

Venom in some lizards including varanids is really old news, I'm surprised this still comes up on message boards (seemingly always with some guy answering "no it's bacteria"). 2002 called, it wants its misinformation back.

[MTovar]

Venom in some lizards including varanids is really old news, I'm surprised this still comes up on message boards (seemingly always with some guy answering "no it's bacteria"). 2002 called, it wants its misinformation back.

This is true that this information has been out a while. But to be fair, who randomly searches "Venom and Lizards"? I think I discovered it a while back in an obscure article in a science magazine while waiting at a Dr appointment. Even then, it wasnt on the front page.

Now, had the venom been discovered in small white kittens...everyone would immediately know. This is why we attempt to make our passion contagious. Information transfer will continue to be slow until we change minds.

[Big Gunns]

Zack:

Komodos were widely thought to kill prey by septicemia - bacterial infections of the blood - that was proven to be untrue.

The problem with that theory is that the death of large prey occured too quickly to be attributable to systemic bacterial poisoning. It's one of those urban legend things - sort of. While they have a mouth full of many strains of nasty bacteria, that's not what was causing rapid swelling and blood pressure/clotting changes.

Well BG has an interesting view on this since he has been to Komodo Island and talked with the guides about this. They were aware of the report that Dragons had venom. They however said it is not true. BG did not want to argue with them about it. He's not so sure that they could really know for sure. It was interesting that they said this though.

[Skiploder]

Well BG has an interesting view on this since he has been to Komodo Island and talked with the guides about this. They were aware of the report that Dragons had venom. They however said it is not true. BG did not want to argue with them about it. He's not so sure that they could really know for sure. It was interesting that they said this though.

BG? BG?

Are you Brian Grieg Fry?

I'm a big fan, BIG fan!

Were the guides wearing shoes?

I find it interesting that the guides debunked Fry's studies, I wonder when they are going to release their research (cue rimshot here).

[Big Gunns]

BG? BG?

Are you Brian Grieg Fry?

I'm a big fan, BIG fan!

Were the guides wearing shoes?

I find it interesting that the guides debunked Fry's studies, I wonder when they are going to release their research (cue rimshot here).

Funny you should ask that. One of the guides had dress shoes on. Something you might wear to a wedding.

The national shoe of Indonesia is the Flip flop though. Everyone including nurses in hospitals wear them. BG hates the flip flop. It's hot 24/7 365 though so BG understands.

[Skiploder]

Funny you should ask that. One of the guides had dress shoes on. Something you might wear to a wedding.

The national shoe of Indonesia is the Flip flop though. Everyone including nurses in hospitals wear them. BG hates the flip flop. It's hot 24/7 365 though so BG understands.

Funny you should mention that - the last wedding I went to I wore flip flops.

[Big Gunns]

Funny you should mention that - the last wedding I went to I wore flip flops.

Move to Indo...you'd fit right in.

[Hulihzack]

Zack:

Komodos were widely thought to kill prey by septicemia - bacterial infections of the blood - that was proven to be untrue.

The problem with that theory is that the death of large prey occured too quickly to be attributable to systemic bacterial poisoning. It's one of those urban legend things - sort of. While they have a mouth full of many strains of nasty bacteria, that's not what was causing rapid swelling and blood pressure/clotting changes.

Thanks for clearing that up, clearly as far as I knew was not very far.

Venom in some lizards including varanids is really old news, I'm surprised this still comes up on message boards (seemingly always with some guy answering "no it's bacteria"). 2002 called, it wants its misinformation back.

Just because it was discovered several years ago does not mean it is common knowledge.