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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    It's all good. But to me cropped ears on a Dobe is what makes them look like a Dobe. There are tons of dogs with natural ears. I love the mean mug shots they give with the ears straight up and moving around like mini radars.
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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    What is the minimum time for cropped ears to stand on their own?

    I'm just curious because a local classified is advertising (with pictures) Dobe puppies with cropped ears that will not need taping after 10 weeks. The ears appear to be more of the working crop type....though it still doesn't seem like much time to heal!

    **just wanted to add the fact that I would never buy a Doberman (or any breed for that matter) from a BYB.
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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calift View Post
    What is the minimum time for cropped ears to stand on their own?

    I'm just curious because a local classified is advertising (with pictures) Dobe puppies with cropped ears that will not need taping after 10 weeks. The ears appear to be more of the working crop type....though it still doesn't seem like much time to heal!

    **just wanted to add the fact that I would never buy a Doberman (or any breed for that matter) from a BYB.
    I think it really depends on both the dog and the crop. Some dogs can take months to get their ears to stand properly. For a "breeder" to guarantee that the ears will no longer need taping after 10 weeks is ridiculous. The ears still have a lot of growing to do.

    Also, I've heard of this happening a LOT with dobies...even if the ears seem to stand up fine while still very young, when they hit their teething stage, untaped ears can very likely start to droop and fall. They often need to stay taped until the dog is completely finished dropping their baby teeth and growing in the new ones.

    To the OP: That's an ADORABLE pup! Can't wait to see more pictures as he grows!! Good luck with those ears!!
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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calift View Post
    What is the minimum time for cropped ears to stand on their own?

    I'm just curious because a local classified is advertising (with pictures) Dobe puppies with cropped ears that will not need taping after 10 weeks. The ears appear to be more of the working crop type....though it still doesn't seem like much time to heal!

    **just wanted to add the fact that I would never buy a Doberman (or any breed for that matter) from a BYB.
    It really depends on a lot of factors - genetics, type of crop, supplementation, posting method and attentiveness of the owner to ensure the ears aren't tipping in.

    Usually a puppy's ears are mostly up by the time they start teething. The owner should increase the amount of Vitamin C during this time to help the ears... we usually go from 1000mg to 2000mg when posting teething puppies.

    Kaylee's ears were up by the time she was 8-9 months, apparently. And she's got a long, thin, beautiful show crop:


    Ronin's were up by the time he was 8-9 months as well... even though his ears are slightly shorter and thicker, he also has very heavy ear leather:


    Now Sooner had GOOD ears - his were mostly standing by 5 months, and he was completely done by 6.5 months. Lucky kiddo!


    (incidentally, all three of these dogs were cropped by the same vet - the differences in shape, length and width were all determined based on their head shape and body type - a good cropper can look at a puppy and modify the crop so the dog will look balanced and correct as an adult... so the ears "fit" the head. This is why many of the best cropping vets only crop 1-2 breeds - they don't crop the breeds they don't know a lot about.)

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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    Thanks for the information!!

    All three of those Dobes are nothing short of gorgeous- but Sooner certainly has stunning ears!! Those shoot straight up

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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calift View Post
    Thanks for the information!!

    All three of those Dobes are nothing short of gorgeous- but Sooner certainly has stunning ears!! Those shoot straight up
    Thank you!

    Another side note - 999 times out of 1000 you will NOT get crops like these from the "local vet that offers cropping" - if you want crops like this, you generally have to do to a responsible show (or occasionally working) breeder, who will sell you a puppy that comes with their ears cropped.

    Sort of like walking into Petco and expecting to find an Axanthic Pied BP (and for $60, even!)... it just doesn't happen.

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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    Oh Lord...well, they are beautiful dogs, with or without ear cropping. I seem a little surprised because I thought this was outlawed in many states...guess not.

    Really nice animals. Are they going to be guard dogs or do work where they will be photographed? They look good
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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate Muffin's View Post
    Oh Lord...well, they are beautiful dogs, with or without ear cropping. I seem a little surprised because I thought this was outlawed in many states...guess not.

    Really nice animals. Are they going to be guard dogs or do work where they will be photographed? They look good
    It's illegal in some European countries, but I've never heard of it being illegal anywhere in the US.
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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    cropped ears or not cropped ...all your guys dogs are so beautiful... I just loved looking at them...

    the babies first taping made me laugh

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    Re: Ear cropping pics!

    The vet that did the new pups was recomended by everyone in the area. Theres hardly anyplace here that will do it but I got to see plenty of this guys handy work before I went through with it.

    Lilys ears took a good 4 months and the one never would stay up on it's own. Now when she is fixated on something it is almost there. And her vet said that he did his according to shape of the head and all of that but I think they are a bit too short. But if you look at black and white pics of the original breed, they also have shorter crops.

    Zues on the other hand seems to just have it going for him. The vet did an excellent job, and they are more what I am used to seeing. They are also comming along MUCH quicker than expected. And he is loosing his baby teeth at the moment for what it's worth.

    And since his surgery he is gaining about 2-3 lbs a week (weighed on an empty stomache)
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