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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    IBD researchers have commented that specimens sent to them from boa breeders as "control" animals, supposedly free of the disease, ended up testing positive for IBD.

    As for pythons passing quickly from the disease - that's only true for some species. Some pythons species may end up proving to be asymptomatic carriers.
    For sure. Just because it's from a breeder doesn't mean it's immune from IBD, but at least you have a source to go to if you do have a problem in the future.

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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    What are the signs/symptoms of IBD to watch for in a BP.

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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    If that is the case, then couldn't you just buy from a breeder that houses their boas and pythons in the same room? If their boas had IBD, their pythons would be dead.

    Depends on the breeders cleaning procedures…

    From what I understand IBD is communicable not airborne…So if nothing ever crosses between species the Pythons shouldn’t be at risk…

    If the breeder doesn’t wash their hands in between each snake, uses the same sink, sponges, hooks, cleaning tools, etc for the two then yes the Pythons would be exposed to IDB if it is present.

    Mites can also spread IBD from animal to animal.

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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    If you keep everything clean and practice safe quarantine you should be fine! I keep alot of Boas and Ball Pythons in the same room and have for years without a problem!

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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    That's good to hear - I think I was just freaking out a little too much. I do plan to qt my new snake even though I am getting it from the same breeder my other two come from.

    I am probably getting an '08 RTB because I need a larger snake from the start to utilize the larger cage that I just bought - but that is fine with me just as long as it is healthy and somewhat friendly.
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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

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    What are the signs/symptoms of IBD to watch for in a BP.

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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    It seems like these IBD threads come in spurts, don't they? You won't hear any concerns for months and then you'll see 5-6 in a row.

    Pete Kahl has the most extensive and ACCURATE information on this topic.

    IBD

    IBD Case Study

    IBD Virus

    In my opinion, I suggest that you read through the information at the provided links and follow strict quarantine procedures for at least 3 months. I keep a BP in my room FULL of Boas and he's 100% healthy. If I can do this with my 200+ Boas and keep a thriving and 100% healthy BP, you should be able to do the same if you follow the guidelines of proper quarantine before you introduce your Boa to your collection.

    1- Quarantine for at least 3 months
    2- Mite preventive during quarantine
    3- Vet trip with full fecal exam and smear
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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by JimiSnakes View Post
    It seems like these IBD threads come in spurts, don't they? You won't hear any concerns for months and then you'll see 5-6 in a row.

    Pete Kahl has the most extensive and ACCURATE information on this topic.

    IBD

    IBD Case Study

    IBD Virus

    In my opinion, I suggest that you read through the information at the provided links and follow strict quarantine procedures for at least 3 months. I keep a BP in my room FULL of Boas and he's 100% healthy. If I can do this with my 200+ Boas and keep a thriving and 100% healthy BP, you should be able to do the same if you follow the guidelines of proper quarantine before you introduce your Boa to your collection.

    1- Quarantine for at least 3 months
    2- Mite preventive during quarantine
    3- Vet trip with full fecal exam and smear
    You only have one Ball Python in a room of 200 Boas? Is that your IBD alarm?

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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by shaunb79 View Post
    You only have one Ball Python in a room of 200 Boas? Is that your IBD alarm?
    Haha, no. I guy down the road from my old house heard I kept snakes and dropped him off to me...back in 2005 I think. I tried to adopt him out, but I got attached to his ugly face....so I kept him.
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    Re: New Snake - IBD Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by JimiSnakes View Post
    It seems like these IBD threads come in spurts, don't they? You won't hear any concerns for months and then you'll see 5-6 in a row.

    Pete Kahl has the most extensive and ACCURATE information on this topic.

    IBD

    IBD Case Study

    IBD Virus

    In my opinion, I suggest that you read through the information at the provided links and follow strict quarantine procedures for at least 3 months. I keep a BP in my room FULL of Boas and he's 100% healthy. If I can do this with my 200+ Boas and keep a thriving and 100% healthy BP, you should be able to do the same if you follow the guidelines of proper quarantine before you introduce your Boa to your collection.

    1- Quarantine for at least 3 months
    2- Mite preventive during quarantine
    3- Vet trip with full fecal exam and smear

    Actually the most accurate information on the subject can be found from this man:

    Elliott Jacobson [JacobsonE@vetmed.ufl.edu] - he's cited on most IBD articles.

    He takes the time to answer e-mails. I would encourage people to direct their questions to him. There is alot of info out there not mentioned in the standard web links on the subject.
    Last edited by Skiploder; 02-11-2010 at 08:17 PM.

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