Spider wobble in full effect

[Skyespirit86]

I'd like to add my two cents.

I love the look of the Spider morph. SO so pretty. I want my own Spider Mojave someday...maybe a Bumblebee or three...and I would die of sheer glee if I ever manage to aquire or breed a VPI axanthic Spider. OMG, SO MUCH GLEE.

I am not put off by the wobbling and still want a Spider because, honestly, this is not an animal that will have to worry about surviving in the cruel harsh real world wilderness. This will be a cherished pet as well as a breeding animal, and if I need to help it get ahold of it's prey, so be it. I highly doubt my lovable, stupid, BRAIN DAMAGED rescue-kitty could survive for more than two seconds outside the apartment, and more than once I've had to help her with food...her face is deformed (though she looks beautiful, she has mild entropion and her tear ducts face outwards, so she doesn't always see well) so she can't always find it when she is given a snack.

Do I refuse to keep her around because without human intervention she'd be helpless and likely starve to death or worse???? NO. As someone else pointed out, so long as they can strike and feed, there is no reason a Spider should be culled.

On that note, I believe I might name my future Spider Weeble. Because Weeble will wobble.

I don't believe a handicapped animal that can be cared for in captivity without excess suffering should be culled, however it doesn't mean they should be intentionally bred. You didnt have you sick kitty intentionally bred- and who would be that cruel? Well thats easy to answer...look at some dogs. Its a shame if snake breeding goes that way. If there are internal things associated with mutations that affect the animal, then we do not know so it isnt anyones fault....if they exist then they are obviously are not serious enough for the animal to be stressed or incapable of acting normal, or we would see...
You aren't rescuing a wobbling spider like you did your handcapped cat, because you are a paying customer, supporting its deliberate breeding.
Even though the wobbling is variable, I think the fact it can be so bad, and cant apparently be bred out, and breeding one with low expression of it to another doesnt seem to work either, it should be avoided on ethical grounds. Shame since it is so attractive, but there are TONS of other royal morphs. And havent we learned with dog breeds for instance? Do we want reptile breeding to go the same way? We look at show dog breeders who disregard inherited diseases with disgust, yet can hardely call ourselves better if we support stuff like this. It is concern over appearance over health, end of story. And I am saying that even though I like their looks...but will not own one or support their breeding now.

I mean people are actually finding their suffering 'cute.' Like a wheezing, sick bulldog that won't live more than a few years. How do you know how this animal feels inside? They can't express emotion. Their neurological problem could be distressing. If you care about the snakes themselves, think of it from their point of view. Do they know/care what they look like? No. I walk a bullmastiff who can't run or do very much, but he has the instinct to run and play just like any dogs and his selective bred, rediculous body stops him being himself. Yet people 'love' them. I think if the problem is serious enough we should be strong with ourselves and not allow ourselves to be selfish like this.